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hadn't occurred to me before but,, I don't see why somebody couldn't get an abundant stock of naturally grown hard woods.
Maybe, grab a D-9 dozer, push a rough route to near the flow front, cut down and haul out whatever is within a certain perimeter as the flow covers ground, extend that perimeter the same.. because, if it stops, then beyond the perimeter remains. and store it.
There's a lot of mighty fine stock, obviously excluding Albizzia, inside its path which could contribute funds toward damages and repair.
I was watching the live cam, going up slope, and can see mo plenty great wood then a woods man could hope for. Moreover it's old enough that the devil tree hasn't been able to invade it as much.
So, plenty good hardwood waiting to burn?, or SCORE!
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Sounds like something to look into.. but I'm sure the county red tape would be a stack of papers a foot high... Then they would be worried about potential law suits from tree huggers, or some locals that would say it is offending some god or deity....
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Spur of the moment remote jungle deforestation, who on earth would object to that?
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Guess what will be sprouting there after the flow.
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Nothing if you remove all of the nutrients.
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Ohia is the only tree that will grow with out soil/dirt. It's adapted itself over millions of years to grow in newly cooled lava.
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It is a characteristic of some ecosystems but especially rain forests to not have much dirt at all. Nutrients and burnt nutrients left on the forest floor are picked up in very small quantities and carried to the roots of new plants by rainwater. Also, it is not a monoculture. Also the natural debris will provide places for birds and other creatures to live. This is something that many people have known for centuries.
Combine that information with the fact that it would not be profitable and that's why nobody's going to do it.
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It does not matter what grows once the lava covers it. It will require creating an entirely new eco system once it's fully covered. The lave flow is deforesting it, I'm talking about getting ahead of the lava flow by some 100-200 feet and harvesting useful trees and lumber before it's destroyed.
Faroutsider: "Nutrients and burnt nutrients left on the forest floor are picked up in very small quantities and carried to the roots of new plants by rainwater"
Dude,, there ain't no friggen nutrients left once lava covers it, 2-4, up to 20 feet high! which combinations of facts are you citing to support your position? Are you even on the same subject, citing eco systems after forest fires? forest fires and the resulting action, has absolutely nothing to do with the type of eco system in lava covered land.
"Combine that information with the fact that it would not be profitable and that's why nobody's going to do it"
I know right, because you've done it? LOL It doesn't sound like you've even been on the big island, have you?
What's being burnt and covered over is land that has taken 100 years or more to recover after being completely destroyed, from zero nutrients too recovery brought on by wind, rain and airborne seeds and nutrents. That recovery will not be affected at all by harvesting it before the lava covers it over.
No worry about 'tree huggers' Royal, LOL
Waste not want not. rather than sit around and watch hardwoods burn and get completely covered over,, rather than just let lava destroy buildings, salvage recovery can be quite profitable.
The only question regarding profitability is dependent on the usefulness of the trees which lay in its path and the energy exerted to do it. .
It appears to be mostly Ohia tree which is a great hardwood but difficult to season. Regardless from a brief look around at the retail cost of Ohia poles, Seasoned and pealed 4 inch diameter x 10 foot long retail = $100 I estimate at lowest average each raw tree is 25 bucks wholesale to a lumber milling site. , and there's , 10's of thousands of trees that will be completely wasted, up in smoke. slabs at retail are $12 a board foot.
Recycling before devastation ought to be a tree huggers dream come true. harvesting before burning and polluting the air plenty good too.
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Everyday in upper Puna many acres are 'stripped' by D9s on new lots, and the ohia usually pushed aside and wasted
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save our indigenous and endemic Hawaiian Plants... learn about them, grow them, and plant them on your property, ....instead of all that invasive non-native garbage I see in most yards... aloha
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The forest surrounding the new flow is the seedbank for future growth.
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The reason more people aren't exploiting lumber in the flow path is that it's expensive and requires specific equipment to both harvest and process; Plus it requires a large drying facility. You don't just cut down a tree and have two by fours rain down on you, but please wear a hard hat, just in case.
