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Geothermal - Health Assessments & Studies
#1
As past studies get invoked during most discussions on Geothermal, a separate thread might make it easier to discuss them more completely if there is interest.

Figured best to start with the health assessment done by the CDC in 1997 as it's the most quoted and probably easiest to understand and go from there.
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#2
http://www.atsdr.cdc.gov/hac/pha/pha.asp?docid=1036&pg=0

This is a Public Health Assessment conducted in 1996-97 by the CDC Agency for Toxic Substances and Disease Registry (ATSDR).

Firstly, this is not a health study, which the CDC is quick to point out. (Give them a call if you want to confirm - plenty of helpful folks both in Atlanta and Region 9). Health studies tend to focus on observed health issues and then possible causes. This assessment focuses instead on a single compound, H2S, the levels detected, and possible health implications.

It is a quick read, but I would summarize it like this: Given the levels of H2S detected from Jan 1996 - Apr 1997, there appears to be no related public health hazard in the PGV area given our current knowledge of exposure to H2S.

A few thoughts on the assessment:
1) Data for H2S levels gathered may be insufficient or unrepresentative. The H2S levels were taken from air monitors located in Leilani and Lanipuna, and compared to the 3 air monitors on site at PGV. Another air monitor was (generally) upwind at Lava Tree to gather ambient H2S readings. It may be that these gathering areas may not well represent the area, given differences in winds, vegetation, low-lying terrain, etc.

A clear example of the difficulty of gathering consistent data on H2S levels can be seen during the March 13, 2013 release event at PGV.

- 1 monitor at PGV shows a peak of 1ppb at 4PM. The other 2 monitors registered no change at all.
http://72.253.107.171/graph/ H2S Data: 2013 - 3 - 13 - View Day

- As PGV went around the plant, Mike Kaleikini said they registered levels as high as 25 ppb and that a monitoring station registered a 19 ppb peak H2S level (16.7 ppb 5 minute average).
https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=Y33k7aFXHao#t=410

- Darryl Oliveira said hand-held monitors registered peak H2S levels of 1000 - 3000 ppb in the surrounding subdivisions.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=6nuxSxS-jIE#t=41

Differences in time, location, winds, and topography resulting in wide differences in peak H2S levels recorded.

2) The data was not independently gathered by the CDC. H2S data was provided by the Hawai'i Dept of Health. Given the clear and wide-ranging political interest in expanding geothermal, it's probably of value to have data gathered by outside agencies, such as the EPA, whose appointments and purse-strings are not subject to local political pressure, if only to avoid the appearance of a potential conflict of interest.

3) Natural background levels of H2S appear to be at similar low levels to that of PGV. For those who point to natural H2S emissions as the source of possible health issues, the ATSDR assessment appears to discount that possibility as well. However, possible sampling issues, as noted in 1), may play a role here as well.

4) The understanding of chronic of exposure to H2S has improved since 1997.
As this assessment is 18 years old, the conclusions may be dated and subject to revision by newer findings. The ATSDR is updating their toxicological profile for H2S and now includes information on their Medical Management Guidelines for Hydrogen Sulfide (H2S) such as:

http://www.atsdr.cdc.gov/mmg/mmg.asp?id=385&tid=67
"Hydrogen sulfide does not accumulate in the body. Nevertheless, repeated or prolonged exposure has been reported to cause low blood pressure, headache, nausea, loss of appetite, weight loss, ataxia, eye-membrane inflammation, and chronic cough. Neurologic symptoms, including psychological disorders, have been associated with chronic exposure. Chronic exposure may be more serious for children because of their potential longer latency period."

To understand why, we'll need to look at some of the actual health studies done.
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#3
Lets start with these:

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3594811/
http://www.ebire.org/hcnlab/papers/ReedWoods2014.pdf

They are the most current and best epidemiological studies done on long term (> 30 years for some participants) exposure to hydrogen sulfide emissions from a geothermal system that underlies the city of Rotorua, New Zealand. The levels of long term exposure there are ten to 100 times the highest exposures experienced by residents in Puna and were unable to find adverse respiratory or neurological effects in a participating cohort of more than 1600 individuals.


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#4

You guys are relentless in flooding these forums with your pro-geothermal propaganda. The retired head of civil defense, Harry Kim, has repeatedly said that geothermal in the middle of Puna the home of 10,000 people is unequivocally dangerous.

Maybe heavy industry should move and butt up to your backyard and argue to be able to drill for 3 months 24/7. Shaking your house and god forbid have a hurricane accident and you fall ill from the fumes but cannot leave due to downed trees all over the roads.

If you love geothermal heavy industry so much, for Gods sake go support it somewhere else not in the middle of a residential areas including schools and homes with elderly who need to be protected and cared for not thrown under the bus for your "agendas".
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#5
somewhere else not in the middle of a residential areas

Not to beat the same old canard, but Leilani isn't "residential"... and if it is really intended to be used that way, perhaps some kind of relocation program to extract the elderly and schoolchildren is in order?

I leave the question of "why those people would build houses on an active rift zone which belches volcanic gases (and possibly lava)" as an exercise for the reader.
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#6
The retired head of civil defense, Harry Kim, has repeatedly said that geothermal in the middle of Puna the home of 10,000 people is unequivocally dangerous.

What Harry Kim did, was to allow geothermal in the first place and that was based upon their use of the older technology, which was not using the closed-loop system. The only reason he opposed it recently was because he thought he would be re-elected as mayor. He is way out of touch with the reality of the newer technology that has been used for years.

Please tell me where all these schools are that are dangerously close to PGV? Nearest school is over 3 miles away in any direction, isn't it?
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#7
offered a financially viable way for them to leave if they wish

Agree in principle, but of course "how do we pay for this"? A clear long-range plan might serve to repurpose monies currently being spent on lawsuits...

as long as we already have residential communities..

Welcome to Puna: whatever you already have is what you already have, it is what it is, and where it is, and that's not changing, everything is grandfathered in forever.

Exercise for the reader: imagine that the PCDP does not exist and is currently being written, only there is no (zero) existing commercial real estate. Where would (commercial, industrial) development be allowed?
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#8
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Then the discussion of geothermal would be more balanced with reality. Yes it's an exciting technology that could provide clean renewable energy.. but as long as we already have residential communities.. and/or sensitive ecological systems that we wish to protect.. heavy industry just doesn't fit... in my opinion of course.


Interesting choice of words - so we eliminate anyplace near anyone, and sensitive ecological systems (and of course they are all sensitive/fragile/essential to someone) - that pretty well eliminates any industrial development and we continue to burn fossil fuels until the last drop is gone...
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#9
Many interesting points, if slightly off-topic. Quickly:
leilanidude: You're ignoring everything Harry Kim has done in the last few years. He's very up to date and can probably expect testimony and involvement from him as new geothermal legislation comes up this session.

dakine: True/Mid-Pacific drilled only one well KA1-1, but had many problems which resulted in a sidetrack and a few re-drillings. The 1991 PGV blowout changing the regulatory landscape with increased monitoring and oversight, combined with community protests, may have made mid rift too much like upper rift perhaps?

geochem: False Dilemma - there are other options between industrial generation and burning every last drop of oil perhaps? As stated elsewhere not your cup of tea, but on-island customer-sited generation of electricity accounts for the same as PGV currently (without the legal/community issues). Would expect this to continue to grow if HELCO/NextEra allows it. Not the single solution, but no energy source really is IMO.
http://www.hawaiianelectric.com/heco/Abo...pany-Facts

As for health studies, I'd tackle Bates first. However, I do want to give a chance for anyone to discuss/argue about the ATSDR assessment first. Given it's often invoked as a one-liner defense for H2S emissions, figured someone would have an opinion.

Anyone's thoughts on natural H2S emissions being cleared as a potential source of health issues as well? This idea of natural causes is another popular argument that doesn't seem to be supported by this assessment.
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#10
Ok then, to sum up:
The 1997 H2S Health Assessment done by the CDC ATSDR, states that for natural and industrial sources of H2S in the PGV area "there is no toxicological evidence that chronic exposure to these levels of hydrogen sulfide would have an adverse impact on public health."

These findings may have limitations including unrepresentative air sampling, source bias, and limited and/or dated information on the effects of chronic exposure to low level H2S.

Glad we can put that to rest now that we're all agreed. Wink

Moving on to the 2013 Bates study on H2S and asthma...
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