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broadband, anyone?
#1
http://westhawaiitoday.com/news/state-wi...77-percent

Hawaiian Telecom officials say the decrease in profit is because of significant investments in the company’s broadband network.

Anyone seeing any of this "significant investment" on the Big Island?
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#2
I call them regularly requesting broadband service in orchidland. Two days ago they told me that their existing copper system is saturated and they were upgrading it to fiber, and they are intending to offer broadband when the fiber installation was operational. As of that conversation they did not have an ETA.
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#3
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Originally posted by kalakoa
Anyone seeing any of this "significant investment" on the Big Island?

Incorrect. The correct question is "seen significant investment in Puna"? The answer is no.

Look at a map of Hawaii island and imagine that rough quadrant that Puna occupies. That is all copper. The arc from south Kona across the north and down to Hilo are being upgraded with fiber. The conversion is a big cost for the telcom company, but the disadvantages of maintaining copper solely for the reason it's already there is offset by the decreased maintenance of fiber. It also takes a big weight off power poles. The cost of the electronics and fiber are much less than they were a few years ago. The investment reduces their profit margin, as the article reports, but the payback is profitable. This depends on customers per mile, which is Puna's problem. Significant size population but spread over a huge area, resulting in low density. For every one person that wants broadband, there are five that are just fine with being totally "off-grid", as long as they have their cell phone. Obvious to Hawaiian Tel, the land line business is disappearing. They have to switch over to being an internet provider but the profit margins in that are historically risky.

Main thing is the rest of the island moves to the Glass Age while Puna stays in the Copper Age circa 7000 BC.

"Aloha also means goodbye. Aloha!"
*Japanese tourist on bus through Pahoa, "Is this still America?*
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#4
The correct question is "seen significant investment in Puna"?

I have clients who cannot get DSL in Hilo, so perhaps the correct question is really "seen signficant investment outside of Kona-town and/or Waikoloa".

This depends on customers per mile

No requirement for fiber-to-the-prem or even fiber last-mile, all we need is enough backbone to make a useful copper last-mile.
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#5
Will the summit of maunakea need this tech with the addition of TMT, if so how many people will live up there per mile? Helco may need a new substation atop maunakea to help keep up with the demand from the population increase atop the summit as well?
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#6
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Originally posted by gypsy69

Will the summit of maunakea need this tech with the addition of TMT, if so how many people will live up there per mile?


Good thinking, perhaps new job opportunities for some of the "Protectors"
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#7
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Originally posted by gypsy69

Will the summit of maunakea need this tech with the addition of TMT, if so how many people will live up there per mile? Helco may need a new substation atop maunakea to help keep up with the demand from the population increase atop the summit as well?


Mauna Kea's communications network

http://www.ifa.hawaii.edu/mkocn/maps/mkocnet.web.pdf

The hearing officer's finding of fact regarding the TMT's conservation district use permit makes a mention regarding the upgrade of HELCO's Hale Pohaku substation.

http://dlnr.hawaii.gov/occl/files/2013/0...cision.pdf
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#8
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Originally posted by gypsy69

Will the summit of maunakea need this tech with the addition of TMT, if so how many people will live up there per mile? Helco may need a new substation atop maunakea to help keep up with the demand from the population increase atop the summit as well?
Come on, use some common sense, or in Puna, uncommon sense. The observatories are dedicated customers. You can get a a dedicated connection too, if you want to pay through the nose for it. This is part of the operating cost for the observatories. Probably going to take the usual twisted reaction path, but the observatories already have their own substation. People go on and on about their concern for this island and then won't lift a finger to find out about the logistics determined by geography. This self-stroking phony compassion makes me hurl.

"Aloha also means goodbye. Aloha!"
*Japanese tourist on bus through Pahoa, "Is this still America?*
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#9
If I start a thread about catchment filtration options, will gypsy69 hijack it claiming that TMT's million visitors will make the rain undrinkable?

We are everywhere...
...we are everywhere...
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#10
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Originally posted by b_a

If I start a thread about catchment filtration options, will gypsy69 hijack it claiming that TMT's million visitors will make the rain undrinkable?

We are everywhere...


Most likely. [B)]

It is either the TMT or PGV that causes all of Hawaii's problems.
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