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A bill to raise the speed limit on Saddle Road
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Saddle Road speed limit bill cruises along

HILO — A bill to raise the speed limit on Saddle Road cruised past the state Senate Committee on Transportation and Energy on Thursday.

Senate Bill 2375, introduced by state Sen. Lorraine Inouye, was amended to increase the 55 mph limit on Saddle — formally known as the Daniel K. Inouye Highway — to 60 mph, instead of 65 mph as originally written.

The bill would retain existing speed limits near Pohakuloa Training Area and the Mauna Kea State Recreation Area, where the posted limit is 45 mph. Inouye also recommended the increase start at mile marker 19.

Inouye said she drafted the proposal after discussions with Hawaii Island residents who’ve been ticketed for unknowingly speeding on the Saddle. On Thursday, she said feedback earlier in the day from community members had been mostly supportive.

“We did receive just a couple in opposition, but other than that … we’ve had lots of phone calls as well as emails (in support),” said Inouye, a Democrat who represents Hilo, Hamakua, Kohala, Waimea, Waikoloa and Kona. “It’d be a welcome change, but also it’s to recognize that there was a purpose for opening up a new highway, for those going to work and travel from East to West Hawaii. But we still need to educate our drivers, they have to pay attention.”

The Hawaii Police Department submitted testimony strongly opposing the bill for safety concerns. The road is “often shrouded in heavy fog, crossed by wild animals and having very steep grades in certain areas,” according to the testimony from Police Chief Harry Kubojiri.



Kubojiri also said officers encounter drivers speeding up to 30 mph over the posted limit already, and raising speeds further would “encourage some of those motorists to continue to drive 25 to 30 mph over the posted speed limit, which would mean speeds close to 100 mph.”

The Department of Transportation also submitted comments with concerns.

In the comments, the DOT said the highway was constructed for a “design speed of 50-60 miles per hour” — Inouye had previously said the road was built to withstand 65 mph speeds.

DOT comments said safety features such as “guardrail end treatments, roadway curves, (and) stopping sight distances … were designed to meet this design speed.”

Inouye said Thursday the DOT is now on board with the amended 60 mph proposal, and would takethe lead in seeing speed changes made.

The measure will now go directly to the full Senate.

http://westhawaiitoday.com/news/local-ne...ises-along
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I think 65 is a good speed for most of the Saddle road, so an official 60mph speed limit should be a good step in the right direction.

The police argument is really a red herring. Firstly, the law already states that posted limits are maximum under good conditions and drivers are responsible for slowing down to a safe speed in bad conditions. Secondly, the argument for not raising the limit because people speed already and will continue to speed by the same amount if you raise the limit seems somewhat hyperbolic.

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#3
People drive 70 because that's the speed that makes sense to them on the big wide open stretches (where the speed traps are btw). Good old Harry trying to pull the wool over our eyes with his creative math, scaring our kupuna with tales of a 100mph Mad Max Saddle Road Experience!
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The speed limit should be 65. There is nothing out there that would necessitate a slower speed with the exception of Mauna Kea State Park area which already has a posted speed limit of 40MPH.
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How long does it take to drive Saddle Road at 55 MPH?
60 MPH?
65 MPH?

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How long does it take to drive Saddle Road at 55 MPH?

Dunno, I'm usually going 80+ to make up for lost time from the unpaved part of my trip.
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make up for lost time

Real world application to reach a median average of 55 MPH for your trip?

"But officer, if you add the 2 miles I drove 80 MPH with the 4 miles at 35 MPH, then divide, I think you'll see my effective speed was..."

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#8
Just wondering. Is legislation the only way to change a speed limit? I don't think I've ever heard of a law to change a specific speed limit.

Is that what had to happen on 130 when the speed limit was changed? I admit I wasn't paying attention...

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#9
saddle road is about 50 or 60 miles long. a 5 mph increase would save about 5 minutes.
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Originally posted by macuu222

The speed limit should be 65. There is nothing out there that would necessitate a slower speed with the exception of Mauna Kea State Park area which already has a posted speed limit of 40MPH.

And that speed limit is way low for the amount of traffic and the wide access turn lanes.
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