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I would like some feed back on Luana Jones. I like that she is independant and not connected with the local sleazy Democratic party coven.
Her facebook page gives me hope. https://www.facebook.com/luana.jones?fref=ts
I will never vote for Joy Sana Banana ventura again.[xx(]
Her big issue is getting PMAR built on Railroad, guess what, I just learned where her house is, right next to Railroad. so she will have a straight shot into Hilo.
Check out the map. http://qpublic9.qpublic.net/hi_hawaii_di...=hi_hawaii&KEY=150231420000
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Originally posted by BillyB
getting PMAR built on Railroad...
Not to rain on your parade or anything too dramatic, but if not on Railroad Ave, which unlike any other route is a pre-established path all the way from Hilo to Kapoho so might have the least amount of obstacles, land acquisition, zoning changes etc., where would you suggest putting the PMAR?
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Usual lack of logic reasons. It's the people in HPP that don't want a Railroad PMAR. Besides that, they don't have as much need for a PMAR as south Puna does. As for Joy, she is going to spend most of her time in Honolulu, so it is a right turn out of HPP to the airport. If you don't like her because she is Filipino, then that is OK.
*Japanese tourist on bus through Pahoa, "Is this still America?*
*Japanese tourist on bus through Pahoa, "Is this still America?*
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" If you don't like her because she is Filipino, then that is OK."
OH Please! The race card?
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getting PMAR built on Railroad...
the least amount of obstacles, land acquisition, zoning changes etc., ?
There is no evidence to support this.
In fact, RR Ave in HPP is mostly houses, which means plenty acquisitions. Zoning (Ag) is the same everywhere along RR Ave -- inside and outside HPP.
As for least acquisitions and more logic, the streets with 20-acre parcels in HPP have far fewer houses. Especially in makai end of HPP.
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It's the people in HPP that don't want a Railroad PMAR.
Let's put this to a (per-subdivision) vote, then; I'm tired of endless "surveys" and "studies" telling people what they want, especially when the issues are "decided" by less than 10% of the affected population.
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Your response seems to be kind of HPP-centric James. When from my perspective other than the high (mauka) path that RR takes through HPP, verses something right in the middle (between 130 and the coast / 13 - 15 ave?), overall RR is a perfect location. I say perfect in that in HB it crosses through the subdivision right in the middle, and still has close proximity to the back side of Nanawale before turning and picking up the folks makai in Kapoho etc.
As to the already in place zoning etc. That was clearly demonstrated by the county in response to the lava threatening Pahoa. If they did as they did then, built up RR and the Beach road, things would be as good as it could get. Though if it was for me to design I think I would put a third road in. RR, the Beach Rd, and in HPP a third one between the two with all three independently crossing Shipman and converging on RR near the old mill and then becoming a full on highway all the way down RR into Hilo.
Regarding the pre-existing structures that might be in the way, look at any satellite view, they seem to be everywhere, at a similar density. I would think that the higher the density the more a need for the PMAR is being demonstrated.
Ah, and then there's the NIMYB folks.. it's interesting how BillyB didn't accuse Joy of being one of them. If she were to promote a more central location, like my 13 - 15 ave idea, then I suspect he would. Equally as interesting is that he hasn't given us any hint as to what he would suggest is the best place to put the PMAR if not where Joy might be suggesting.
As to BillyB's original question, Launa hasn't got a chance methinks. Just on the fact that Joy didn't screw up, hasn't become embroiled in any over the moon type controversy, and has diligently done her job I suspect she's a shoe in. And besides Hawaii is a Democratic state big time, and it's my bet in this instance folks will just vote the ticket.
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Regarding the pre-existing structures that might be in the way, look at any satellite view, they seem to be everywhere,
Yes, and many of them were built to "avoid" the PMAR, based on rumors and guesswork about its eventual placement; this problem is actually worse than not building it at all.
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When the county was actually discussing building PMAR with HPP a few years ago, there was a fact sheet put together based on the county's plans at the time. IIRC, Mr. Weatherford was on the committee, and he knows this subject better than most. One of the few things the county was clear about was that they did not want Railroad for the route. It meanders across HPP with about seven intersecting cross streets and the right of way, with the exception of the stretch between HPP and Hawaiian Beaches, is private and would require condemnation like any other property. In fact, I believe Railroad was referred to as a "red herring," but people and politicians who don't bother to research all this still revert to Railroad as their default route. I actually attended the meeting where the county described their plan as being to run the new road between two existing parallel roads in the "least developed" part of HPP to minimize having to buy out homes. At the time, that would have been somewhere between 10th and 15th, and it is still probably true, at least based on the most recent Google Maps snapshot I just looked at.
Meanwhile, the Shipmans remain intransigent, and there is no money anywhere in sight to build the thing.
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there is no money anywhere in sight to build the thing.
I thought State was sitting on a $1B surplus while also not spending a few hundred $M worth of Federal highway grants? Maybe we were talking about the County with the lowest fuel tax, or was it "why does Shipman pay only $2/acre in property tax"?
Did you hear the one about how there's enough existing buildable lots for over 4x the current population? I think a bunch of them are in the "fastest-growing" subdivision...
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