Study: Wind farms contribute to global warming

[terracore]

In the rush to Hawaii's 100% renewable energy goal, let's not throw science (or the birds) aside:

https://news.harvard.edu/gazette/story/2...down-side/

[kalakoa]

Fossil industry hit piece. Wind alone can't meet the entire need; if we were really serious about reducing emissions, we would be using nuclear, current-generation designs are safe, previous disasters were on antique reactors (and, it could be argued, caused local destruction, not planet-wide climate change).

The real answer is "get off this rock" but we're screwing that one up too.

[HereOnThePrimalEdge]

But... but... wind farms can reduce the effects of hurricanes!
https://www.scientificamerican.com/artic...rricanes1/

On Tuesday night, 9/18/2018 Hawaii Senator Mazie Hirono had another message for the Republican senators on the Judiciary Committee “Just shut up and step up. Do the right thing.” She added in another related comment, “Bull$hit.”

[alaskyn66]

No. Lets keep using coal and fossil fuel because windmills are ugly. NIMBY.. i dont care about the future generations. Not my problem. Am I right? High five.[Sarcasm]



I have a sudden craving for popcorn..

[Guest]

Those pesky wind shadows always messing things up .. lol

[PaulW]

I think we have enough wind here already, thank you very much.

[leilanidude]

But... but... wind farms can reduce the effects of hurricanes!
https://www.scientificamerican.com/artic...rricanes1/
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Flawed science.
Wind turbines are designed to shut down with wind speeds over about 40-50 mph to prevent damage to the blades. They wouldn't do a thing!

[HereOnThePrimalEdge]

Flawed science.
Wind turbines are designed to shut down with wind speeds over about 40-50 mph

You might want to read the article before you make flawed assumptions:

Here’s how it would work: As the outer bands of a hurricane approach the massive set of wind farms, the turbines spin, taking energy out of the winds... If the outer-band winds are diminished, the storm’s power decreases; wind speeds slow and the surge lessens. As the hurricane continues to cross the wind farms, the turbines continue cutting down the energy, so the hurricane loses strength as it advances. Very high winds never build to strike the turbines.

[MarkD]

Coming to Hawaii soon: Offshore wind farms.

https://www.google.com/search?q=offshore+wind+farms&client=safari&rls=en&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjAuurv6u_dAhXlKX0KHXJ6CBQQ_AUIDygC&biw=1252&bih=646

Aesthetic concerns? Naaaaaah.

[tada]

I think what you want to do is avoid "load shedding".



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bgPbcBRHGwE&app=desktop&persist_app=1



My understanding of going "off grid" is you need battery backup". Then gotta have a generator to backup the backup. So if Helco go 100% renewable is battery going the real backup? Because unless you in Puerto Rico most Americans go nuts if the power goes out.