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there's a lot of weird different stuff about South Point, like it being at 19.5 latitude and being a vortex of supernatural energies, about the veil between worlds being thin there, hell, I just recently heard a myth about this weird... there's like, a lake out there, its unconnected to the ocean, apparently its a portal to another world, lol. I visited the lake, and while it was very peaceful, I can't report anything supernatural. It does appear to very, very deep though. The only thing about South Point I personally find odd is that there's a very stark difference in the rainfall, it goes from brown and dead to lush and green, like a dividing line.
Still, though, South Point keeps coming up as a focal point for weird stuff, UFO's, stuff i mentioned above, other weird stuff. Why?
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Pick any random point on a sphere. There’s your thin area.
Maybe glinda knows...
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Don't know about all the supernatural legends but I am interested in the lake. Where is it exactly? What road to get there?
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I believe that is where the Polynesians first landed & settled Hawaii.
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There isn't a sign, we were just driving along in south point and my friends said "hey, check this out" and we are at the lake. It wasn't very far from the boat ramp, but i have no idea where its at, either.
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My take, glassnumbers, is that the things you are learning about in Kau might be prevalent because of the nature of the people that live in Kau.
When the controversy surrounding the TMT began to be discussed here (on PW) a long time contributor, punafish, in an effort to shed some light on what may make different people see the world around them differently posted a link to a thought provoking study that I found relevant to understanding the differences that arise between people of different cultures, of different upbringing. Of course, for those that live in fear of differences punafish's post was not embraced, in fact it was strenuously dissed by the folks here that believe their perception of reality is the only one that matters. But still, I believe this study will go a long way towards understand the situation you find yourself in.
Kau is different than other places. It is very remote, and as such fosters different thoughts and activities than other places. It also attracts the kind of person that wants to live there. As such we can expect that the experiences of the people that do live there will be akin to their point of view, which in turn will shade their perception of the world around them. This is not unique but happens in all situations everywhere. The sad thing, imo, is that anyone, of any walk of life, believes that they are superior to anyone else. That their beliefs are right and other's wrong. That what one perceives can't be right, or exist at all, because they don't perceive the same.
So, even though my answer in no way directly answers your question I am quoting the original punafish post below in the hopes it adds something to your contemplations.
From: http://www.punaweb.org/Forum/post.asp?method=ReplyQuote&REPLY_ID=213200&TOPIC_ID=20822&FORUM_ID=2
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Originally posted by punafish
Interesting discussion. Just to add a little spice, new research that questions many assumptions we hold near and dear to our hearts, for example the impact of culture on behavior, cognition, even our individual "hardwiring". Here's a fascinating article that touches on the concept of "cultural memory" (but definitely not "racial"). A snippet:
"Studies show that Western urban children grow up so closed off in man-made environments that their brains never form a deep or complex connection to the natural world. While studying children from the U.S., researchers have suggested a developmental timeline for what is called “folkbiological reasoning.” These studies posit that it is not until children are around 7 years old that they stop projecting human qualities onto animals and begin to understand that humans are one animal among many. Compared to Yucatec Maya communities in Mexico, however, Western urban children appear to be developmentally delayed in this regard. Children who grow up constantly interacting with the natural world are much less likely to anthropomorphize other living things into late childhood.
Given that people living in WEIRD societies don’t routinely encounter or interact with animals other than humans or pets, it’s not surprising that they end up with a rather cartoonish understanding of the natural world. “Indeed,” the report concluded, “studying the cognitive development of folkbiology in urban children would seem the equivalent of studying ‘normal’ physical growth in malnourished children.”
http://www.psmag.com/books-and-culture/j...mics-53135
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i just remembered something about the south point lake, right outside of it, there seems to be a tombstone for Robert Kanaka, the words are almost faded, and its inscribed 1906. There's another name underneath it, but it has been faded by time.
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A lake.....do you mean that sunken part of water that's maybe 25 feet across? Just about halfway between the heiau and the boat ramp? Yeah, I have gone for a dip in it myself. It's the open roof of a collapsed lava tube, and the water is actually the ocean. The water level rises and falls with the tide.
South Point is just a very special place. Like the other side of a coin from the summit of Mauna Kea. Wide open views of the ocean in all directions, the sprawling grandness of Mauna Loa behind you, and no vegetation beyond some swaying grass. One of my very favorite sunset spots.
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Originally posted by dobanion
A lake.....do you mean that sunken part of water that's maybe 25 feet across? Just about halfway between the heiau and the boat ramp? Yeah, I have gone for a dip in it myself. It's the open roof of a collapsed lava tube, and the water is actually the ocean. The water level rises and falls with the tide.
South Point is just a very special place. Like the other side of a coin from the summit of Mauna Kea. Wide open views of the ocean in all directions, the sprawling grandness of Mauna Loa behind you, and no vegetation beyond some swaying grass. One of my very favorite sunset spots.
oh,wow, that's what I was talking about, awesome!  thank you so much for this information.
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its all in your mind....
its called a rain shadow, and its more defined on Kohala (northpoint), ie near Waipio its over 200"/yr rain, and just 10 miles away as the alala fly, in Kawaihae its under 10" rain / yr often...
fwiw, Id cut back on the ayahuasca and dabs, youll be fine...
if you want to see something cool in that area, there is a huge 'place of refuge' called the Kamakalepo/Waipouli/Stonehenge Area near Nahalehu, Hawaii, .......the system is entered through two pukas (ceiling collapses): Lua
Nunu o Kamakalepo (Pigeon Hole of the Common People) and Waipouli (Dark Waters)....it could hold well over a hundred people w/ food and water for weeks... the lava tube is nearly 50' tall and wide, and hundreds of feet long... huge...
https://www.researchgate.net/publication...ehu_Hawaii
https://www.researchgate.net/figure/View..._256724410
https://www.researchgate.net/figure/Map-..._256724410
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save our indigenous and endemic Hawaiian Plants... learn about them, grow them, and plant them on your property, ....instead of all that invasive non-native garbage I see in most yards... aloha
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