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How will Hawaii fare if the world gets even warmer, forests burn, and rivers dry up? Here's a few quotes from an article in Time Magazine:
Today’s desirable locations, such as Florida, California and Hawaii, will be increasingly deserted for the more pleasant climates of former Rustbelt cities that will experience a renaissance
Elsewhere, people will move to higher elevations, including the Rocky Mountains in North America and the Alps in Europe. In the US, Boulder and Denver, both above 1,600 metres, are already attracting migrants,
What about Volcano? That sounds more pleasant than an old rustbelt city in the Midwest. More desirable than Nuuk in Greenland, another suggestion they made.
Lots of speculation, and suggestions for other northern climates around the world, but personally I think Saddle Road at 5000 foot elevation might make a cool, comfortable subdivision.
https://time.com/6209432/climate-change-...will-live/
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09-06-2022, 12:55 AM
(This post was last modified: 09-06-2022, 01:09 AM by 'elepaio.)
IMO > This thread, like many others, could be misconstrued as local because of the side order of Volcano tacked on when in essence, its far beyond our puna shores.
But yeah, so does kobeed and the related dramas.
This will simply turn into another test of Robs patience if folks begin to post up positions and evidence.
Who is REALLY worried about having to move ? .
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There was a US military report over a decade ago that predicted sea level rise, extreme weather, and political instability due to the pressures of climate change. Basically they predicted it would lead to wars breaking out and mass migrations of refugees.
We're probably lucky we live in a strategic yet isolated part of the world, surrounded by open ocean that mediates our temperature and provides sustenance and a barrier to entry.
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This thread, like many others, could be misconstrued as local
Because the article says that Hawaii might become increasingly deserted? And some people in Hawaii, on Punaweb might want to comment on whether they think that may or may not occur? Rather than claim possible events in Hawaii have nothing to do with Hawaii?
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Here we go again.
The island (all of them actually) is moving NW and sinking. They will all continue to do so, for millions of more years just like they have already.
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09-06-2022, 05:04 PM
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(09-06-2022, 12:55 AM)elepaio Wrote: IMO..
Yeah, without empathy figuring out how the world goes round can be a challenge. You really gotta try to understand what folks are saying before you respond, 'el. Otherwise, all your posts end up being just more of the same ol' thing..
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I don't see Puna being oppressively hot for quite a while but it might become more isolated as sea level rise swamps Hilo and Kona. We who live in the boonies probably don't appreciate how much we depend on having nearby population centers that are not in crisis.
I could actually do with a little less rain in Eden Roc and a couple degrees warmer would be tolerable but this assessment leaves out any negative consequences of barges and cruise ships not being able to dock or collapse of local agriculture.
I wonder what makes Hawaii vulnerable? I have to assume coastline issues.. The Big Island has fundamentally different coastlines than the other islands. We have some beaches that it would be tragic to lose but most of our coastline is cliffs/not gently sloping beaches.
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And we have become quite used to losing beaches.
Certainty will be the death of us.
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Don't worry, the climate will not be allowed to change the coastline without the appropriate environmental and cultural impact studies. Hawaii will singlehandedly delay climate change by decades, until is broke or frustrated enough to move on.