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Gambling in Hawaii
#1
The issue of putting slot machines in fancy hotels is idiotic because if you're going to do something, you should do it right and that means full-blown casinos. The Big Island is much like a third world country in which the people speak English and use American money, and we could use every break the federal government allows. One thought that comes to mind is based on the "Indian Reservation" model on the mainland. I don't know where these "Native Hawaiian Lands" are, but I do know that a casino somewhere in the middle of Saddle Road would be a moneymaker. Tourists could take special busses and locals from both sides of the island would have easy access. They spend money to fly to Las Vegas, and staying here would benefit the local economy. Gambling, like drugs, is a horrible addiction for many and the issue should be addressed accordingly.
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#2
A few casinos in Hilo would might give people a reason to get off the boat....


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#3
Do like Colorado. Portion of lottery & gambling proceeds goes back to State Park upkeep or some other worthy purpose. Yep, gambling can turn into a major disorder, if not gambling there's probably plenty of other addictions to suffice Smile
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#4
O.K. it's finally out in the open - other topics have picked at it - now it's time to expose the wound under the scab - gambling casinos are truly an MSRA(superbug).

Hawaii has been TRYING to deal with it's indigenous population since 1898 - without success.

This is a pandoras box not to be opened - the benefit to the INTENDED is minimal - but to the money(off island developers) that initiate it - MONUMENTAL.

How could Hawaii possibly control/regulate gambling on "Native Hawaiian Lands" - when it cannot even populate the set aside developments for "Native Hawaiians"?

Just based on my LIMITED knowledge there are THREE major developments in PUNA alone; with all the utilities and infrastructure in place and only a handful of lots "populated"(some of those only tents and tarps).

Just check CA as an example - TOTAL CORRUPTION - only a limited population of "Native American Indians" benefit from the BILLIONS made for the INVESTORS.

Sorry - a little rambling post - but you get the idea!

"Each thing I do I rush through so I can do something else" - Cemetery Nights/Stephen Dobyns
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#5
Yes, there is already a horrible gambling addiction in Hawai'i, kept in check SOMEWHAT by the need to get on a plane to Vegas to indulge in slots and all, so by all means let's give the addicts a way to lose all their money here.
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Great, all we need on the Saddle Road is tourist buses and people drinking and driving, and lots of vehicles.

With all due respect, I think that's a horrible idea.

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#6
Menehune speaks wisdom.

Someone soon is going to point out that most of the other states have it. I think most of us live here because it's not "most other states".

Gambling isn't the only stratigy available to overcome our economic problems, but it's certainly got to be the most destructive and potentially corrupt.
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#7
Jon says,"A few casinos in Hilo would might give people a reason to get off the boat...."

You have got to be kidding me.

They have casinos on the boats already.

I think that is an awful idea. Period! I have lived in 3 states with gambling and it always leads to sad situations, most of all the money never really goes to where it was voted to go to.

Hilo has plenty of great places to go and things to do already. However, what I do think should be done is have a welcome center built where the people get off of the docks. This would be a place with some shops, tour operators, maybe live Hawaiian music and Hawaiian dancing or palm weaving etc, information desk, maybe a crafts market where local artists could set up booths, and a place where a free shuttle would take people downtown. Right now my heart aches when I see the tourists wandering through our crummy looking port area and have to hike to town. Unless they are going on a pre-booked tour, that is their only option. Most cruise ports do this, as ports are usually in a rather gross area of town and not directly adjacent to the places the tourists want to go to.

And while we are at it, I hear that there is a complete monopoly for serving the cruise lines to provide tours etc. That is not right either. It does not give the guests to our town a lot of options, nor does it encourage LOCAL people to start businesses that serve the cruise ships.

devany
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#8
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Originally posted by Menehune

How could Hawaii possibly control/regulate gambling on "Native Hawaiian Lands" - when it cannot even populate the set aside developments for "Native Hawaiians"?
They better learn.
When Native Hawaiians are finally accorded status, the IGRA will come into play. The State either negotiates a compact under State control and law, or risk having the Secy of Interior do it for them under federal law.

As an aside, if status is accorded, the state will probably transfer Hawaiian Home Lands to the control of the recognized tribe/nation/kingdom.
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#9


And they will likely then become like the Seminoles and Missosukee of Florida. Sit in thier houses and stay drunk while collecting thousands of dollars per month while a company runs big bucks cassinos on their land. The state will get little if anything.

Pua`a
S. FL
Big Islander to be.
Pua`a
S. FL
Big Islander to be.
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#10

But that was Florida's stupidity to refuse revenue sharing. Don't blame the Tribe for Florida's foolishness. Since that decission, no other state has followed Florida's footsteps. They all would rather have the millions of dollars in revenue from Indian Gaming versus take nothing.

I doubt Hawaii would refuse the millions of dollars in revenue.
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