Hawaiian Airlines Pilots Authorize Strike

[macuu222]

Boy...if it isn't one thing...it's another. Thats all we need is Hawaiian airlines to go on strike when we're currently in a tourism slump. This depressed Hawaiian economy just doesn't seem to be getting any breaks.
http://www.honoluluadvertiser.com/articl...ize+strike

[Bullwinkle]

Hm............. Hawaiian has the money to buy A330's ... but cant afford a raise for the folks flying them. A330 being a higher capacity, longer distance aircraft then the rest of the current fleet.

If I were one of the pilots being told I had to fly a airbus with unresolved fatal issues after signing up for a job flying boeings ... that would be enough reason to strike , never mind the money

There may be more of an issue than meet the eye here. Bringing a new aircraft type always tough. The airlines eliminating the flight engineer years ago still stuck in the craw of many old timers, now we are moving into scheduled transpacific flights with a twin engine two man crew- unheard of 20 years ago. Wages should reflect that.

[Aaron S]

this won’t happen for the foreseeable future unless the federal mediator declares that negotiations are at a stalemate. When that happens there is a 30 day countdown before the pilots can legally strike. If there is no agreement after the 30 day countdown the president can step in and bar the pilots from striking. Thus we are still a long way from any debilitating pilots strike at Hawaiian.

[Kelena]

The pilots have declared they are at an impasse and wish to be released from the talks.

So, in your experience, what happens to the flights if a pilot strike goes forward?

[mella l]

I prefer the Boeings as those airbus craft have serious problems with the laptops while they fly themselves!

mella l

[Blakeyboy1]

Mella and Bullwinkle I am glad that you mentioned the Airbus issue. While I have flown on many Airbus planes I too feel that there are just too many weird and unresolved accidents (particularly over the past several years and most recently the Air France flight over the Atlantic). So I do avoid them and have selected airlines and flights recently based on the equipment. Do you think this is reason that the pilots are striking or is it money (I really don't know what the issue is)?

As luck would have it we do have flights booked on Hawaiian in December (inter-island only). So it will be interesting to watch and see what happens.

-Blake
http://www.theboysgreatescape.blogspot.com/

[PaulW]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Competition...ing#Safety

"Both aircraft manufacturers have good safety records on their late-model aircraft. By convention, both companies tend to avoid safety comparisons when selling their aircraft to airlines. Boeing aircraft introduced since the 1990s had several fatal accidents; Airbus aircraft of similar vintage have recorded only one fatal accident.[31] Most aircraft dominating the companies' aircraft sales, such as the Boeing 737-NG and Airbus A320 families (as well as both companies' wide-body offerings) have good safety records as well."

Does anyone really really think Airbus is unsafe? Got anything to back it up with?
You don't think the FAA would've noticed?

[missydog1]

It's always unsettling to have fatal crashes with total loss of all on board ... and not have them nail down the cause. Or rather, the cause was not terrorism, or simple pilot error, or simply weather, but most likely a problem with the aircraft that needs to be addressed.

[PaulW]

Yes it is - but it happens with all types of aircraft.
See USAir Flight 427 and South African Airways Flight 295.
Both unexplained Boeing crashes.

[missydog1]

Which is why I hate flying.