An invitation for you

[mella l]

to join people from around the globe and learn what others are planning and thinking about, new ideas perhaps.

http://www.350.org/

mella l

[Chuysmom]

Pam, I love this website...it's terrific to see so many people caring about our earth...kudos to you for the link!

Carrie Rojo

http://ppl.blastoffnetwork.com/carrierojo
http://www.carrierojo.etsy.com

"The world is changed. I feel it in the water. I feel it in the earth. I smell it in the air. Much that once was is lost, for none now live who remember it." Galadriel - LOTR

[mella l]

New farming going on in Hawaii. http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20091024/ap_o...ing_tuna_6

Hawaii approves farming tuna from the sea, off of the big island! I don't know where off of the Big Island only that the farm will be aproximately 1300 feet underwater. Interesting new industry. Hi Carrie!

mella l

[Devany]

Mella,

The farms are slated to be off of the West Coast. Too many rough waves on the windward side of the island. There is already one that has been in business several years, this will just enlarge their operations, Kona Blue: http://www.kona-blue.com There are a actually a few operating now, but Kona Blue is the largest operation thus far.

The only problem I have with this type of fish "ranching" is that they use huge amounts of smaller fish to fatten up the tuna, super fast, sort of like feed lots do by fattening beef cattle with corn (which cows do not eat in nature), it is an un-natural process. The fish also get much less exercise, as they are penned for most of their adult lives.

Aloha au i Hawai`i,
devany

www.myhawaiianhome.blogspot.com
www.eastbaypotters.blogspot.com

[Bullwinkle]

and they are gm fish, the japanese wont eat them me thinks.... the whole deal not very well thought out.....

personal experience watching a few of these start ups from my boat --- all failed to achieve salable size

one to watch --- hope fully they wont make to much of a mess or let the gm fish out

Tilapia (fresh water) and white bass (salt) are the other two species I know about. In both cases it was a gm hybrid that could live in foul densely populated water and achieve size and texture. Cage cleaning being a huge labor issue ... and if missed (weather) everything died or lost weight.

These guys shooting for 800 or so metric tons up from 500 pounds a week a few years ago, if still true 850 metric tons is a lot of fish, wish em luck

[mella l]

Ewww sounds like the caged chicken industry Devany, I'm tending toward the vegetarian side of things I think, well and home grown eggs and chickens. I want to stay away from as much of the up front GM stuff as possible, as we don't know how much we get under the wire now, so to speak.

Lets hope it doesn't go the way of other start ups in Hawaii like the Southpoint wind farm, rusting away. My local friends tell me when the money incentive goes away after 5 years or so then the PROJECT is abandoned and it is more than just the wind farm this happened with.

mella l

[Devany]

Bullwinkle... I did not know they were also GM! That makes them double bad. Do they have to label them as such when marketing them? You are right, the Japanese market will not take GM fish! These are ahi, not blue fin, which the Japanese are farming in the Mediterranean using the same methods, but those fish sell for over $100,000 each.

When I lived in Chicago there were some boys who were "farming" talapia in bathtubs of abandoned apartments in the housing project they lived in, however there was a bad storm and the building lost electricity for 30 hours so their aerators were not able to work. Can you imagine how these fish farms were exposed? Stench!

Aloha au i Hawai`i,
devany

www.myhawaiianhome.blogspot.com
www.eastbaypotters.blogspot.com

[Bullwinkle]

" Kona Kampachi® "

anytime a bio company trade marks its "creation" one can assume some genetic hanky panky


http://www.foodproductiondaily.com/Quali...fish-Study

and some background

[nmorata]

great site pam...maybe we should do something for the next october event in puna.....

Noel
plantalohics check out
http://theplantwhore.blogspot.com/

[huligirl]

An event next year would be fun Noel!

Wonder what would be a good presentation? Palm trees in the design of 350, or coconuts, bananas?

Hum we'll have to take another look ponder and see which would be more workable for Hilo, maybe bathing beauties in the bay synchronized swimming 350! Something zaney maybe at a black sand beach near you!

Great it's in your court Noel!!