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#1
This thread was about a suggestion that using the right shoulder

(ONLY if someone in going 35 where 55 is posted

as an EXCEPTION and MORE SAFE WAY then left shoulder.

the right shoulder IS ALREADY OPEN 2 hours on weekdays.

I guess those who make it legal and

those who don't have to work or drive the same 2 hours to work can say that I sigh up for driving 1.5 hours (instead of 4o min.)because some scenic driver wants to go 35?

Following this logic after reading on PW about multiple crimes in HPP

the same people should say :

"You bought a house in HPP,you sign up for a burglary!"
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#2
IMHO you should not pass on the right shoulder, ever, with the POSSIBLE exception of when a car is stopped turning left and there is good room to go around on the right. People do not expect someone to pass on the right and they may not see you and it's a danger. Imagine if everyone was doing it, chaos. A long drive to Hilo is part of what you sign up for when you moved to your subdivision. It was certainly something I thought about when I considered Kehena and Puna Palisades. Welcome to Hawai'i!
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#3
How about leaving earlier?
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#4
Kathy,I didn't sign for the idiot going 35 where 55 posted.
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Originally posted by PaulW

How about leaving earlier?

I already answered that if you read the whole post.
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#6
On most/many parts of H130, it's posted as max 55, min 40 so if someone really is consistently doing 35 in these zones then they're breaking the law. You should note the number and inform the police.

I can't say I've ever seen anyone ever go under the minimum speed. Usually you get tailgated if you stick to the maximum.
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#7
Why are you in such a hurry that you would feel the need to endanger others, especially those on mopeds/scooters? What if the person you are passing doesn't see you and decides to pull over so they can talk on their cell phone or make a legal right-hand turn?

Passing on the right (shoulder) even for a stopped/turning vehicle is illegal in Hawaii.

There are currently two active threads about a local car being driven dangerously. You need not be a part of the problem.
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#8
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Originally posted by StillHope

Kathy,I didn't sign for the idiot going 35 where 55 posted.

Hope, you did sign ... in rural Hawai'i some people drive slow and are in no hurry, and we have two lane roads. Not that I don't empathize because I had an appointment in Hilo yesterday and got one of those 35 mph cars on Hwy 19, which is annoying and made me a little late ... and I should have left earlier just in case, my bad.

If a person moves here and rents for a year before building or buying, that's enough to figure out what the deal is going to be living far from town. Most will figure out you don't buy far from Hilo if you need to be there for work every day. When newbies show up here wanting to buy right away, I always advise to come and live here first.

I am sympathetic, but you chose to build from afar and move here and now you are dealing with the way things are here ... for you to start breaking traffic laws yourself is not OK, IMHO. You asked for feedback and I'm giving it ... not without empathy for your situation though.
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#9
Mdd,passing on the left shoulder is much more dangerous when the traffic is busy.
Isn't it the yellow car case?

Kathy,we are not discussing why someone live in certain area.
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#10
No we are not discussing someone living in certain areas, but we ARE discussing cultural attitudes, tradition, overcrowding (mostly because people like us moved here in droves the last 5 years) and following safety laws.

Be safe. Do not pass on the right. Accept that the place you chose to live is impacted with too many cars to get to Hilo in a reasonable time and leave yourself enough "unreasonable extra" time to do what you need to do, get where you need to get and do so safely.

The point about living here for a year first is very good advice. If you had known of the overcrowding conditions on the roads during what has become "rush hour" and you don't like driving slowly in it, you could have made a better choice on location. There are many many things here that don't work the way they did "back home". That is part of the charm of moving out to this rural, remote island. You want freeways, go to Southern Calfornia. Here we have rinky dink roadways, old clunker cars, often driven by old clunker people that have done so for 40 years. This is their home and that is just the way it is.

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