Building code changes

[jerry]

The Trib today carried an article on the County Council discussing Bills 268, 269 and 270 which relate to building issues. I cannot find these on their website. I would like to read them, help appreciated.

Jerry
Art and Orchids B&B
http://www.artandorchids.com

[YurtGirl]

These are some pretty major changes, some of them. We should definitely be aware. I read they were on the site too, but I couldn't find them. Picked them up at the meeting. Be concerned, folks. Be VERY concerned. Safe rooms mandatory, adding $6k - $16k to building cost. Projectile missile tests up to 34 mph for all windows, doors, exterior siding and roof, 48 hours notice given and then they have the right to come onto your property and inspect your buildings, criminalizing non compliance with stiff fines and jail time. At the Kona meeting, the county 'servants', ahem, cough, said that we the public were like small children who don't want to take their medicine. That it was up to them to be the parent and make sure that we do it, even if it hurts, for our own safety. What kind of idiocy buys into that kind of thinking?? Hmmm... I can think of a few countries, but it isn't supposed to be the USA.

[YurtGirl]

ps, jerry, I think you can probably get a copy from Noelani Whittington, she's on community outreach for the department of public works. cell - 808.961.8630

[oink]

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Originally posted by YurtGirl: What kind of idiocy buys into that kind of thinking?? Hmmm... I can think of a few countries, but it isn't supposed to be the USA.

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Very profound and timely.

Pua`a
S. FL
Big Islander to be.

[Seeb]

can someone post the text of this thing

[YurtGirl]

It's 86 pages. We asked them to make it available online, but they didn't address that. The paper said it was available on their website, but I've been unable to find it.

[lquade]

yes, it seems like socialism is indeed coming to the ole us of a. the safe room for 8 people??? and we are building a one bedroom house?? i also liked the mandatory phone line in the safe room when many many people no longer have land lines at all with cell phones. jon olsen tryed to pin them down, the article said about the mandatory solar , and saying many had them on the ground and the response was they would HAVE to be attached to the house foundation and need a permit.. another real nasty change was if you let your permit expire, it would void all previous FINIALED permits. so you run out of money at the sheetrock stage for example and your permit expires, now your septic, electrical, framing, plumbing which all had passed are VOID. thats a nasty piece of work if i ever heard one!![}]

[john the architect]

I have observed a shift towards inspectors requiring another permit in cases where they previously would have asked for a clarification note from the architect. Something to factor in and stay ahead of when making slight changes to plans.

I also have one project for which I have plans reviewed and ready for corrections to get the building permit for a 1,568 sf house. This is now under the old rules so it can avoid the new requirements. The ownership can be changed along with the plan resubmittal. Some customization is still possible on the interior, and we have fine-tuned the plans and details and include more locally sourced sustainable materials. It would be a great project for someone who wants to "hit the ground running" and build a high quality tropical modernist home on a very cool lot in central HPP next to four other existing and planned solar homes. You can see this on my website jmagreenbuilding.com

[YurtGirl]

That's not quite what I heard at the meeting and read in the proposed amendments, lquade. Some of the info's been a bit skewed here. You could replace a landline with a 'DESIGNATED WIRELESS PHONE', as long as it was always kept in that room. Hmm... cement walls/roof... cell phone reception... and how do they enforce that? If it isn't enforceable, WHY WRITE IT INTO MANDATE?

Re: solar, no one said it had to be attached to the house foundation, only that they would have to be attached to some kind of frame, which would require a building permit only if it were over 6' high. They weren't allowed to be just laid on the ground. The mandatory solar water heater was what I brought up earlier in this thread, and that came into effect earlier this year, though they have allowed for some saving grace variances, like more than one gas appliance allows you to have a propane on-demand, or lack of sunshine in your area.

[Kapohocat]

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Originally posted by YurtGirl

That's not quite what I heard at the meeting and read in the proposed amendments, lquade. Some of the info's been a bit skewed here. You could replace a landline with a 'DESIGNATED WIRELESS PHONE', as long as it was always kept in that room. Hmm... cement walls/roof... cell phone reception... and how do they enforce that? If it isn't enforceable, WHY WRITE IT INTO MANDATE?...

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Must be some HiTel lobbying in that one.