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any TSA advice?
#1
Well I'm waiting with bated breath to visit TSA Oakland, Honolulu, and Hilo!

It's in the news of the day so anyone have any up close and personal stories to share??? Any hints to make this pending experience less humiliating??

Hope to catch up with each of you when I get thru the maze!

A Hui Hou1

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#2
My advice is relax and don't think about it much. Stand in the stupid machine let them do what they do and head for your plane and have a nice trip. Any idea how boring looking at tens of thousands of human body images in B&W is?
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#3
I was "selected" for the photo booth coming back from Las Vegas this summer. No big deal.
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#4
Just got back! Went through the x-ray machine. No big deal. My wife got to go through the regular metal detector. Don't wear anything that will set the machine off and you will be fine. Put everything in the tray, i.e. wallet, loose change, belt. I get a laugh when the news programs interview a person about the TSA requirements, but never ask them why they were searched in the first place. If you set the machine off, prepare to be searched.
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#5
Since my artificial hips set off standard detectors every time, I got to experience the "government grope" pat-down a couple of weeks ago. The only way to make it less humiliating is to imagine how humiliating it is for the TSA agent who has to feel up Aunt Tilly or Uncle Fred. As for other TSA advice: try to get in line behind someone who looks like a frequent flier (and therefore knows what he or she is doing) make sure all your liquids and gels are in the proper size bottle and in the quart-sized Ziploc bag, be prepared to take off your shoes and belt, and above all, follow the advice that my first grade teacher, Sister Mary Bridget, always gave us: "Accept adversity cheerfully and sacrifice your suffering for the poor pagan babies..." (BTW, I am probably now officially a pagan baby myself...)
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#6
I'd rather not get cancer from the radiation. I'd rather not get molested either. Haven't our government done enough to its people? Don't fool me.
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#7
Pagans of the world unite!

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#8
I just don't fly anymore- for whatever reason I may have to travel.
I I was groped by these TSA clowns, I'd grope them right back. So I don't fly anymore.
Besides, this is Hawaii. At my age, why go anywhere else anyway?
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#9
Recently flew Hilo-HNL-Phoenix-Las Vegas and return: no "nudie scans" or government gropes anywhere.

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#10

Several physician & scientist friends of mine and I have been back and forth with each other about this over the last couple weeks. We have all, 100% (which is rare in this group of strong-minded and very independent friends), concluded we will all opt out of the backscatter radiation scans and will encourage our families to do likewise. Being groped by TSA is unpleasant and little children being groped by TSA is profoundly worse, but better suffer through the inappropriate touch than be subjected to participation in a massive ill-conceived cancer experiment. That is what this is, ultimately.

The security procedures currently in place even with these backscatter radiation machines are ineffective (follow the money to find out why the expensive machines are being advanced so aggressively) so this does not actually accomplish the goal of making air travel safe. Moreover, whichever set of numbers one uses for radiation levels of properly calibrated and functioning machines (the numbers have varied depending on who did the measurements) everyone acknowledges there will be one or more cases of cancer resulting for every X people through the machines; the quibble is about the rate, not whether it will happen or not. Myself, even if the rate is only one in 30 million then --given the machines serve no actual constructive purpose anyway-- I'd rather not spend billions of dollars on machines to irradiate and eventually kill people for nothing, whether it is ten people or thousands who develop cancers. In the case of people making multiple trips through the machines, malfunctioning machines, and other predisposing factors (compromised immune system, previous cancer, et cetera) nobody knows what the outcome will be. As they have no idea, no clue, not based on any evidence.

Instead of people passing through these machines, an apt cartoon might show a steady stream of oblivious experimental guinea pigs, lab mice, and sheep (how about it, Tom?) Years down the road the data will come in on this massive experiment; it may show these radiation exposures figuring much more sharply than anticipated in causing cancers. Remember how smoking was safe, we were assured? Right.

As to how best to deal with inappropriate behavior on the part of the TSA, there is a great of useful information, news via links, and commentary in the first fifteen discussion strands at the Privacy and Civil Rights tribe site:
http://civil-liberties.tribe.net/

Though I will opt for a groping when it comes to it rather than the radiation bath, I am avoiding flying as much as I can -mainly because I am afraid I will lose my temper and be arrested, fined, and be banned from flying for speaking my mind. Good luck with your upcoming travel!


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