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Would Puna Community support a Medical Cannabis Di
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With SB 1458 being debated yesterday in the House. I asked myself is Hawaii County ready for this? Besides the obvious,being me. Who is 110% behind the idea of medical cannabis dispensaries in Hawaii County,and state.
Sure, the same old voices will oppose such a move. The far right. THe Church, and the vast majority of the GOP. Ah, let us not forget law enforcement. The folks who stand to lose the most if this happens. So naturally they will in all likelyhood have the loudest voice in opposition to SB 1458. Ever stop and wonder why all retired police chiefs & cops support medical cannabis? Why do they get it, yet their still working co-workers don't?

If the House is able to pass their version of SB 1458. It would mean only one dispensary(on Maui), on a "five year pilot program". With video camera running 24/7 with feed going to police station. I openly oppose their(House) version of SB 1458.
Let me start by saying we don't need a pilot program. WE can "Cherry Pick" the best parts of programs already up and running successfully in their states. Going with a 5 year pilot is just dragging ones shoes.

Please leave your opinion here. Hawaii's medical cannabis community needs your opinion on the matter.

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#2
Hawaii isn't going to jump into wide open dispensaries. Better to enjoy the small step forward, be patient, and let things evolve.
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#3
Holland allowed dispensaries for all adults thirty years ago. Works well to this day, of course.

It's astounding how backwards the domestic situation is here.

The majority voted for lowest priority. We are being held back by self interested drug warrior, know nothing (except how to cash a check) politicians, ect.

If cannabis dispensaries are "controverisial", then most of the products sold in supermarkets here should be banned, as they are far more dangerous and deleterious to health and society.

Email, write or call the tax feeders.



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#4
I sent in testimony in support of the bill. I did so with some concerns. In my eyes medical marijuana has been gamed and somewhat discredited by being exploited by average pot smokers and abetted by some doctors. It happens... a lot... and it is a real discredit in my eyes. Exploiting the pain and suffering of people with cancer and other ailments just plain bothers me. I do want people with real medical needs to have access so I sent in a testimony in support.
Assume the best and ask questions.

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#5
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Originally posted by Beachboy

Sure, the same old voices will oppose such a move. The far right. THe Church, and the vast majority of the GOP.... Ah, let us not forget law enforcement. The folks who stand to lose the most if this happens. So naturally they will in all likelyhood have the loudest voice in opposition to SB 1458. Ever stop and wonder why all retired police chiefs & cops support medical cannabis? Why do they get it, yet their still working co-workers don't?....

You do realize in California - the opposition came cloaked under the guise of church and GOP but the drug dealers in the humble opinion I have heard were the ones who voted against it. Who knew dealers actually voted? The rumor was it would have cut pretty far into the cartels in no cal's profits. Even my conservative Catholic Republican brother and his entire family voted for it.

Maybe it's a good thing that the legislature is voting and not the general public. So how did the vote go yesterday?
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#6
Rob,

The endocannabinoidal system indicates extremely wide medical utility for cannabinoids, which is probably why our brains and nervous system make them. Life extension is documented with supplimentaion, also.

The concern you raise is a bit like being concerned about healthy people eating citrus, because they don't need the additional vitamin C.

That's why Prof. Robert Melamede refers to them as a suppliment.

"*** Cannabinoids and tumor inhibition in the news again this week!: www.mapinc.org On this video filmed in 2006, Dr. Robert Melamede, Professor of Biology at the University of Colorado, explains how the body’s Endo-Cannabinoid system (and plant based Cannabinoids as suppliment) kills cancer cells and inhibits tumor growth. Refering to 1974 USgovernment-sponsored study when THC was found to slow growth of cancer cells projectcensored.org and to recent research in Spain finding that THC stopped brain tumors in rats and protected surrounding nerve tissue, demonstrating neuroprotectant aspect of Cannabinoids. PDF of Dr. Guzman’s research: americanmarijuana.org Refering to “Homeostatic Regulation” of several body systems by Cannabinoids, Dr. Melamede concludes that Cannabis is indeed a “Miracle Drug”, also recommending hemp oil as excellent source of efas the body needs to fight disease."

This is one of the most poorly understood issues in America, thanks to paltry news coverage of relavent medical research and studies.

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Originally posted by Rob Tucker

In my eyes medical marijuana has been gamed and somewhat discredited by being exploited by average pot smokers
The bolded text pretty much sums up the reason medical marijuana always runs into problems.
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#8
See above...

Like I said, it's one of the poorest understood issues in America.

It would help if our schools taught US history, so people would have accurate background information on this.

Oh well, perhaps the issue of, "how many angels can fit on the head of a pin", will become the next big social issue. Wouldn't surprise me in the least. Give it a generation.

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Lee
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#9
Another source of tax revenue - go for it.

David

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#10
Rob,

Twenty million, (roughly seven hundred thousand per year on average), Americans arrested for criminal cannabis consumption should be a response to significant social harm, one would think.

Specifically, what social damage, (at least comparable to that from legal alcohol, tobacco and pharmacutical drugs), comes from peaceful, otherwise law abiding cannabis consumers, as I assume that would be the basis for your unspecified concerns?

How, in your opinion, does so called, "illegitimate", medical consumption harm society, compared to criminal, personal use consumption?

Here in Puna, which do you feel, poses the greater threat to the society we live in? Do you feel that "illegitimate" medical consumption fosters crime and violence, perhaps at greater levels than an unregulated black market?

How many angels...





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