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hello, today is National coming out day.
To make this Hawaii related I will include that in Jan. 2012 same sex couples can legally have civil unions.
I am the proud parent of a gay son. I couldn't be happier for his choices and his lifestyle. I have twin sons and one is gay and one is straight. They both are good kids (young adults) and live on the Big Island.
National Coming Out day was created for gays to let others know they are gay so that it breaks down the myth that so many people have that they don't know any gays.
On this and other blogs I have been called gay. I am not, but that is just the way I am. My son is gay and that is just the way he is. I don't see why it matters what I am.
Anyway, hopefully those puna residents and punaweb members who are gay will take today as an oportunity to let others know they know a gay person.
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Orchidlandguy::::::: as the proud papa you appear to be of both of your sons:::good for you!
Could not agree more with you "why it matters what I am". Too too many labels we use.
I am sorely disappointed though that you use "choices and lifestyle" relating to your son.
Thanks OGL for reminding me that the civil union date is January. That's an exciting change. Nice to learn about your family. I agree it doesn't matter on a blog that what orientation you are unless you choose to share, although I think it is nice to know that about the diversity of members that we have here.
Lokahi, I am thinking that even though being gay is not a choice, that being open and out is a choice. Living life the way one feels natural or conforming to imposed and artificial norms is also a choice.
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quote: Originally posted by KathyH ...being gay is not a choice...
Isn't it sad that even within the family some family members are not educated enough to know that being gay is not a choice? [ !][ !][ !]
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quote: Originally posted by John S. Rabi
quote: Originally posted by KathyH ...being gay is not a choice...
Isn't it sad that even within the family some family members are not educated enough to know that being gay is not a choice? [!][!][!]
Yeah, whenever this comes up in conversation, I always ask straight people, "Tell me about the day you chose to be straight..."
And I must confess, on first reading the "choices and lifestyle" comment I had the same reaction as Lokahi, but then when I re-read it, I interpreted it the same way Kathy's did --, being gay isn't a choice, but the way you live your life is.
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The words "CHOICE" and "LIFESTYLE" used by me about my son:
I am proud of the lifestyle he has CHOSEN to live. Not in the closet, but out with everyone he knows and happy. Not everyone who is gay has CHOSEN to live an open LIFESTYLE and be happy who he is. He is an activist and involved with gay politics as well as gay healthcare. He works with PFLAG to educate. That is a lifestyle choice. Just as staying married to a woman when you are a gay male is a lifestyle choice. Being in the closet and telling lies about your partners and your sexuality is a lifestyle choice.
I have NEVER thought that being gay is a choice. NEVER.
Being out and proud of who you are is a huge choice and living openly with being true to your convictions is a lifestyle.
My son chose to be openly gay and happy about it. He came out to us when he was in 8th grade. He was openly gay in Keaau High school. He embraced his gayness and that is a CHOICE.
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quote: Originally posted by John S. Rabi
quote: Originally posted by KathyH ...being gay is not a choice...
Isn't it sad that even within the family some family members are not educated enough to know that being gay is not a choice?
Aloha,
John S. Rabi
Actually "what is sad" is when you sign off on punaonline blog as "a lesbian in a man's body" under all your posts there.
You, John Rabi, need some educating if you think that comment under all your posts is anything but disrespectful to lesbians and gays.
The words "CHOICE" and "LIFESTYLE" used by me about my son:
I am proud of the lifestyle he has CHOSEN to live. Not in the closet, but out with everyone he knows and happy. Not everyone who is gay has CHOSEN to live an open LIFESTYLE and be happy who he is.
Just as staying married to a woman when you are a gay male is a lifestyle choice. Being in the closet and telling lies about your partners and your sexuality is a lifestyle choice.
I have NEVER thought that being gay is a choice. NEVER.
Being out and proud of who you are is a huge choice and living openly with being true to your convictions is a lifestyle and a choice.
you need an education to sign off your posts on punaonline as "a lesbian in a man's body". You have no idea of what a lesbian is if you can say that you a heterosexual man is just the same as a lesbian. That is really insulting to put under each of your posts. EDUCATE YOURSELF rather than pointing to me and saying I am "sad". You have no idea about gays and your posts show it.
(edited only for typos)
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quote: Originally posted by Orchidlandguy
quote: Originally posted by John S. Rabi
quote: Originally posted by KathyH ...being gay is not a choice...
Isn't it sad that even within the family some family members are not educated enough to know that being gay is not a choice? Aloha, John S. Rabi
Actually "what is sad" is when you sign off on punaonline blog as "a lesbian in a man's body" under all your posts there. You, John Rabi, need some educating if you think that comment under all your posts is anything but disrespectful to lesbians and gays.
As I recall some bozo here on Punaweb gave me that label, so if you think it's disrespectful than talk to the bozo![8D][8D][8D]
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I've been around gay men all my life as family members and co-workers. I always enjoy being with them because they are kind-hearted, smart and fun. I hate that society has made life so hard for them in the past for no good reason. And for the grouches on this board: if you can figure out wording you don't like in my post then go ahead and complain! Aloha ~
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quote: Originally posted by John S. Rabi
quote: Originally posted by Orchidlandguy Actually "what is sad" is when you sign off on punaonline blog as "a lesbian in a man's body" under all your posts there. You, John Rabi, need some educating if you think that comment under all your posts is anything but disrespectful to lesbians and gays.
[quote][i]Originally posted by John S. RabiAs I recall some bozo here on Punaweb gave me that label, so if you think it's disrespectful than talk to the bozo!
Aloha,
John S. Rabi
YOU, JOHN RABI are using this tag line to sign off in every post not only on punaonline, but also on Tom Lackey's blog. YOU, JOHN RABI use these words, not someone else.
YOU sign off on every post stating "I am a lesbian in a man's body"
Time to stand up and take responsibility. YOU sign off this way, not someone else.
Do you ever step up and say you are sorry to the gays you offend with using this signature tag? Nope, you just posted that it is someone else's responsibility that you sign off as a lesbian in a man's body. You are a real piece of work.
Twist my words around and try to shame me? Not going to get it when you disgrace all gays by your signature tags. Take a look in the mirror. AND stop using that disgusting slap in the face to gays signature tag. It is homophobic and insulting to lesbians and gays.
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