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[mella l]

DrJ love the moniker, do you do jazz with that adjustment! Well just asking, might catch on!! Welcome to the Punaweb, where the Punatics roam day and night! See how many are bitten by the love bug in Hawaii instead of Florida!

mella l

[DrJ]

Feeling very welcome already. Thanks everyone! J is for my last name (Jensen), but when I created the moniker I was thinking of Julius Erving, I'm a bit of an NBA fan and basketball in general. Not sure about the music aspect, but I can whistle something mean while I adjust if you like.[]

Thanks again for all the 'welcomes' and I look forward to getting to know you all!

p.s. Although I didn't go to High School here, I get that question a lot. Nice to find someone else that made the move from here to the Big Island or Hawaii Island or whatever you like to call it from St. Louis!

[oink]

Wifes from St.Louis (Overland). We were married in St.Louis. We lived in St.Peters. She got her BA and MBA at Lindenwood. She used to be a news editor at KMOX. I was a park Ranger at the Arch. We met at a bar in the Landing when I was living on W. Pine in the West End. I haven't been there in a long time. It sure had (has?) some nice bars and beautiful churches. I still remember the summer of 1980, with no AC.

Pua`a
S. FL
Big Islander to be.

[Loretta]

Let's talk St. Louis here....Lafayette Square for me..and my husband was rehabbing in Shaw and Botannical Neighborhoods when we met. Small world. Seeing the floods in STL on the news today...we had moved from the city to a house on the Meramac in 1993.....the 100 year floods came....and we lost everything!! The volcano does not seem like a big deal to us!!!

[Les C]

I grew up in the Islands and this Island has always been referred to as the Big Island since before statehood, to differentiate from the State/territorial name. I've never heard that it was not a preferred reference. But I've also been living elsewhere for a long while. Halema'uma'u is the correct punctuation and the Hawaiian way to pronounce the name. When growing up in these Islands, punctuation in Hawaiian words and names weren't always complete with 'okino and kahako (and it's still the case, as I can't put the macron on the first "a" in "kahako") and the pronunciation didn't always reflect the Hawaiian pronunciation. These days, Hawaiian pronunciation is likely matter of awareness and consideration of the culture that preceded us and is so characteristic in this land on which we live. "Laulau" doesn't have 'okino, I think, so it shouldn't be pronounced with glottal stops as in "Halema'uma'u".

[aikahimomma]

thanks les c...i grew up here too and have a hard time saying things right after saying them wrong for so many years...the big island will always be the big island to me...glad to see lau lau remains the same!!

[hooligal]

Whoa! Loretta, I left because of the 100 year flood too. I was living down on the Landing at the time & was pretty nervous about the levee walls holding back 50' feet of water. When the barge broke loose - that was the last straw for my frayed nerves! It was heartbreaking to sandbag my friend's houses only to loose a few weeks later to the floods. Hate to see it happening all over again.

Oink! My parents still live on West Pine On the site where that wierd round hi-rise used to be. I sure miss Lleywellns & Culpeppers - heck, one of the highlights of visiting ma & pa is eating my way thru the West End.

And of course, Ted Drewes.

Hmm, ok...I'll admit I miss Saint Louis *a little bit*. But Puna still has better winters !

[DrJ]

This year it seems to be South St. Louis that is suffering. Fenton and Valley Park are the areas with the worse of the flooding so far. I'm actually out in Chesterfield by the new Chesterfield Valley strip mall, which is a little worrisome since this area was under 6 feet of water in 1993... so hopefully the new levees hold! So far we've been really lucky and the Missouri has stayed in her banks. We're suppose to get more rain tonight which really won't help us out though.

[kani-lehua]

quote:

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Originally posted by aikahimomma

i had heard a few years back and i can't remember where, that there was a move to start calling this island by the proper name of Hawaii island. i got the feeling that it was the tourist industry being pressured by folks who are trying to right some of the pronunciations of all things Hawaiian.
On another similar note the way the news folks are pronouncing Halema'uma'u (instead of Halemaumau) is totally different then the way i have always heard it in the past...
which then begs the question -How should you say lau lau?

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the big island or hawai'i island was traditionally known as, "moku o keawe" which refers to keawe'ikekahiali'iokamoku, the 17th century chief whose, "wise and peaceful reign caused his people to use his name as a poetic substitute for the name of the island he ruled." the literal translation would be "the island of keawe".

halema'uma'u is the correct way.

laulau is the correct way.

malia paha o lohe aku

perhaps they will hear