01-15-2011, 12:11 PM
quote:Orchidlandguy,
Originally posted by Orchidlandguy
I am in favor of generating money for punaweb.
In addition to donating money through paypal to support PW, I think those folks who have links on every PW post to their business are advertising. This takes up a lot of screen space (I have an ipad).
I would rather have an ad free PW, which was Rob's intent.
However, some long time members have been free-loading off PW for years posting several lines under their names with links to promote their businesses.
This advertising on PW. If you are going to continue with this, pay for the use of the advert space.
What do you think, Rob? I would love to have no adverts and links and several advert lines under names. OR Charge Them For This Free Service They Are Using.
Anyone else think this is not ok on an advert-free blog?
I am obviously one of the people that you are referring to here. Just for the record I am in no way offended and my posting here is not meant in any way to offend or for any kind of retribution. I really just want to let you know some facts about this.
First I am sorry my signature adds 9 extra lines to each post I publish. Most forums allow the use of signatures. This is where my links are posted. Everytime I post, the forum software adds my signature which I configured through the user control panel. Everyone has access to this and can do the same thing as I do. It is common practice throughout the Internet to place personal webpage links in ones signature. The administrator can remove this feature from the board anytime he feels like. I made sure that before I placed any links in the signature that I was not violating any rules against it. But since it is allowed here and commercial website links are allowed I am well within the rules.
I am not sure how long I have been a member here but I believe it is going on 4-5 years. I sometimes go many months without posting here. And I have had either 2 or 3 websites in my signature during that time. I keep a close eye on how many people visit my sites from PW based on the links in my signature. So first I want to say that 2 of my 3 website links are "FREE" sites. There is no paid for advertising on either one. However, on the Kona Forum I do have my own advertising and I have free advertising (advertising friend's sites) and I have Google Ads as well. In the 5+ years I have had the Google ads on this site I have made exactly $100.00 total and nothing in the last two years. So technically make nothing from the site. The Kau Web does not have any advertising whatsoever. And the last site is my web hosting business. With all this said The Kona Forum gets 9-10 unique visitors a month from the Punaweb if I post anything here during any month. Considering I get thousands of unique visitors and 10's of thousands of visits a month to this site 9 or 10 is negligeble. The same goes for the Kau Web. I get an average of 12-15 unique visitors to this site if I post here in any month. However, since John mentioned the Kau Web here in the Punaweb the number of visitors and visits has increased substancially. All those years of having the link in my signature and no one even noticed until John mentioned it in a post. And after all these years, until this month I have gotten ZERO yes ZERO unique visitors to my hosting business site from Punaweb. This month so far I have received 6 unique visitors from Punaweb. And today I received my first new customer (THANKS PETE!!!) that I can attribute directly to the Punaweb. BTW, I sell web hosting for $3.00/month. So it is not like I make a killing in this business.
So would it worth paying for advertising FREE sites in ones signature? Nope. Would it be worth my paying for advertising my business site in my signature? No to that as well. If Rob were to change his mind and want to charge for advertising business sites in ones signature I would remove the one link and replace it with another link to another one of my "FREE" sites. If he wants to eliminate signatures altogether he can do it as the admin of this board. There is nothing I can do about that.
I do benefit slightly in other ways (not monetarily) from placing the links in my signature but I have typed enough in this post so I won't go on. Just thought you might be interested in some facts.
The Ka'u Web
http://www.kauweb.com
The Kona Forum
http://www.konaforum.com
Da Kine Web Hosting
http://www.DaKineHosting.com