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Originally posted by kalakoa
Agriculture would be exempt from the new requirements.
Which causes more pollution: a cesspool, a cattle ranch, or farm runoff?
Something tells me this isn't so much about "water quality"....
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I read that too...exemption for agriculture... and got curious enough to try to find the 342D-8, 342-e,342-b, etc. that it kept referring to. I can't find it now and maybe I was looking at the wrong item 342 (please someone else check this out); but what I found was a water quality fund set up years ago to accept (this year) 11.1 million in federal funds;that require state matching funds of (I think it was 16%). It seemed to me that all this water quality money has to be raised in order to get that federal money. Sorry I can't refer or link to what I found, but I'd sure be inerested to see the right 342 that's referred to in this bill. anyone?
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In todays Tribune Herald(4/8/13) in the classified section is the County budget. Of note; funding for a feasability study for a sewer system in Pahoa. How much is the hook up running these days?
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1. Shame on our ("elected") leadership for voting in favor of "unspecified" fees -- I promise to vote for them an unspecified number of times in future.
2. Why waste yet more ("public") money on yet another "study"? How about: solicit bids for the project, divide by the number of (downtown Pahoa, or whatever service area) TMKs, then poll the landowners to see how "affordable" they think it is -- safe bet this is a non-starter unless/until State DoH is threatening to condemn the downtown. (The study isn't a total loss -- at least it can be recycled for toilet paper.)
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I would like to see the DOH do more authorizing of composting toilets.
Lets say you got a sewer system? Where is the poop going to end up? Could be a treatment plant but still poop heads to the ocean, just like water runs downhill.
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Honolulu's sewer system has probably dumped 10,000x more raw sewage in the ocean than all the private septic systems combined
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...that's okay, though, because it's a "sewer system" (on Oahu, with 80% of the population).
Everyone knows the "problem" is all those rural cesspools on the neighbor islands, right?
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Maybe the state could have an incentive for for people to change over existing cesspools to a well designed septic.
And not the state's usual'' do it or else ''
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I agree Kapohocat, composting is the most responsible way to deal with our waste.
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hey all-
Honolulu is under the gun to fix its water and sewer system- doesn't everyone here want to sacrifice and help Honolulu and Oahu in their hour of need?
Jeez, maybe Honolulu can end the rail boondoggle and fund their own sanitation problems.
Also- fuel tax revenues, hotel tax revenues and needless to say- most dangerous roads in the State, here in Hawai'i County. Who needs help more?
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http://humanurehandbook.com/contents.html Link above is a free copy (downloadable PDF) enjoy!
I bought this handbook coming with intentions of having a composting toilet. The handbook is an eye opener even if your not intending to compost it's a good read. This is as cheap as it gets... Tho, if I had one I'd put in a vent with a solar exhaust fan. [:I]
I ended up with a septic tank and yes... it pollutes not as bad as a cesspool but not as good as composting toilet. It's not for everyone but could you imagine changing out buckets and composting in 10 degree weather? Hawaii is the best place for composting toilets. Esp, since we would be making a lot of dirt that is needed in most of puna.
