Street address

[maud gonne]

I was told by my community association (Nanawale) that if there was no dwelling on the lot the county did not assign an address. So I made one up (for UPS, friends dropping by, etc) - put up a sign with the number that it seemed the lot would be - it's an empty lot with a driveway leading to the back lot with an address.
I'll try emailing the county as MarkP suggests.

[AKpilot]

Try Hamakua....we have a TMK, but officially with the county, our place has "no physical address" Our tiny 1 lane road has 4 names according to the county map!

AKpilot

We're all here, because we're not all there!

[opihikao]

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Originally posted by MarkP

I have a street address but no permits. You can get a street address for raw land. You must email somebody at the county with your TMK # and request an address. It can all be done by email.

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Exactly, MarkP.

We obtained a street address with a phone call, confirmed by email (for our protection/confirmation).

JMO.

[dakine]

FYI: It's up to the Planning Department to issue street addresses. They base them on the location of a driveway into a property. The last property I dealt with them about this was one in Volcano that has 600 feet of road frontage and two addresses, one for each driveway into the land. That is why the county will not issue an address until there is a specific driveway to attach it to.

[kalakoa]

county will not issue an address until there is a specific driveway to attach it to.

They will, however, take your word for the location of the driveway, unless said driveway requires permits.

[ericlp]

https://www.fbi.gov/news/news_blog/track...al-cruelty

If Hawaii Humane Society won't do anything, take pictures, record video, or audio (sounds the dogs make) when abused. Make a new anonymous account on facebook, upload all your stuff and share it with the humain society's facebook page. Keep a record of all times you have called the cops or HHS, just in case you gotta take em to court. Hopefully you can get it straightened out.

[terracore]

Because I have a history working with humane societies:

Police are responsible for enforcing animal welfare laws. Many jurisdictions voluntarily pass this responsibility off to the humane society under a cooperative agreement that imparts some law enforcement authority to the "humane officers" (or whatever moniker that organization uses to identify those employees) who are tasked with the responsibility. The police departments pay the humane societies for this service. It is usually win-win because the police are freed to investigate "more important" crimes and the humane society can use the money to implement their animal welfare programs. HOWEVER, the police department can't abdicate their responsibility to enforce the law. If their contracted officers (humane society) aren't performing the duties they are being paid for, the responsibility falls to the police.

This is a common problem with the "win-win" scenario: The government authority is paying for a specific law-enforcement service and the humane society redirects a disproportionate amount of that money to other services like adoption programs, spay / neuter clinics, etc while starving the law enforcement section of the monies required to fulfill their obligation under the contract.

For that reason, many of these police - humane society contracts are very specific as to the types of things humane officers are supposed to be doing, however they don't actually tell the humane society how the money has to be spent.

IF the humane society is negligent in performing their enforcement duties (and not responding to an animal welfare complaint within 24 hours should be considered "grossly negligent") then the police are required to investigate. The '24 hours' is kind of a universal standard because 1) An animal could die in that time and 2) Somebody decided that animals should be allowed to suffer immeasurably for 23:59 hours, but never 24. Often times the metrics for initiating an investigation to a complaint (regardless of if its a dog in traffic or dogs getting starved) are written into the contract. And if they aren't, they should be.

If the humane society is not responding to allegations of animal cruelty and neglect, the correct course of action should be to make the complaint to the police department. They will immediately try to wash their hands of their responsibility and defer you to the humane society because that's what they are paying them for. It is at that point you need to escalate your complaint (to the chief if necessary). Since the police are holding the purse strings on the humane society's enforcement budget (which is probably being pilfered by other programs) the chief can "make it happen" if you are persistent. (In my experience, "being persistent" means as little as getting past the dispatcher) In a worst-case scenario, and I've seen it happen, a humane society can be considered in default of their enforcement contract and lose it. Sometimes the police resume the enforcement activities themselves, however there are actually for-profit companies that bid on contracts like these, and animal control and welfare services go out the lowest bidder. Usually though the humane society "fixes" things to regain the contract.

I must post some disclaimers: while I am very familiar with these types of arrangements in other communities, I retired from the animal welfare scene before I moved to Hawaii, so I do not know how the specifics occur here. But it sounds like the humane society has a law enforcement component (which is not unusual) patterned like many hundreds (or thousands) that operate around the country.

The key takeaway should be that police enforce the laws. A professional law enforcement department, upon hearing that their contracted officers are not fulfilling the contract, should immediately take it upon themselves to fill those gaps and initiate inquiries on why they aren't getting what they paid for.

ETA: grammar, content

[JG-HPP]

Thanks Leilanidude,
I used the link you provided and it was easy. Even though the satellite picture had not updated to show the house, it still gave the lot's address.