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I didn't say there was no money at all in sight anywhere . . . just none to build PMAR. The priorities, as always, are elsewhere.
Edited to add: It would be in everybody's best interest for a route across HPP to be declared now. Of course, we know that would require paying somebody $10M to do a study which consisted of pulling up a satellite map and counting the houses along five or six roads in HPP. I will do it for the bargain basement price of $1M. Disclosure: I've already done it, and it took half an hour.
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The criteria for a best route for PMAR should not be how many houses are, or are not, on a studied route. Such a road would be serving the area for the next 100+ years. The current build out status of an area has little or nothing to do with it.
One thing Honolulu is not used to is that in Puna land is cheap. In Honolulu land is very, very expensive.
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Rob Tucker says, "The current build out status of an area has little or nothing to do with it."
Of course, this is correct in the world of effective planning, but the guy from the county said that a build-out density survey was how they wanted to do it. The reasons given were that it was both cheaper and would impact fewer homeowners. (Read "NIMBYs") The county isn't known for thoughtful long range considerations, or this whole mess wouldn't be happening, would it?
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people...don't bother to research all this still revert to Railroad as their default route
That pretty well sums it.
As for existing homes: money spent condemning and buying homes and relocating occupants is not spent building infrastructure. And, there is only a limited amount of money to be had.
About the 20-acre parcels in HPP (on 5th & 6th, 15th & 16th, and 25th and 26th near Makuu; and 4th & 5th, 14th & 15th, and 24th and 25th on Kaloli): there are fewer houses on these streets, and, should those large parcels ever be used for their deed-restricted purposes of 'education and recreation' and 'commerce and light industry', then the PMAR will be adjacent.
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I find it funny to think that HDOT or anyone else in this state government might actually be interested in economy. No evidence of that to date.
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Oh, I agree. This was the county (also not known for economizing) and it was probably as much for political expediency as for expense.
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Joy's big issue is PMAR but not necessarily on Railroad as it runs thru HPP. Railroad starts in Kapoho and goes quite a distance before hitting HPP so it ain't just about HPP, folks! There are several other sizeable subdivisions wanting coastal access: Hwn Beaches/Shores, Nanawale, WaaWaa, Kapoho, Leilani, Pahoa, Ainaloa, etc.
Joy is trying to find out exactly where people want PMAR to go and I've pushed Rob Tucker's suggestion to Joy, that it go thru 11th and 12th or nearby as it transverses HPP. Most people (other that Shipman) want it to go closer to the coast andNOT end up in Kea'au where it would just add to Hwy 11 headaches as well as our own. From the island's eastern-most areas, there's a good 5 or 6 miles between Hwy 130 and the coast.
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should those large parcels ever be used for their deed-restricted purposes of...'commerce and light industry', then the PMAR will be adjacent.
Yes, by routing a major road through an area of shopping, businesses, and other high traffic activities, it's as if government officials determined it might be a good idea to place such a busy "Main Street," if I might coin a term, in the exact location people most likely wanted to drive to anyway.
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To the OP, FWIW, Luana Jones is a lovely woman, who has become part of the fiber of the "lower Puna" community over the years (Leilani Estates, Pohoiki, etc., area). Her surfing background, combined with her sincere aloha for Puna, gives her access to our keiki at the beach. They all respect her mana'o, and her genuine concern for all.
As far as her running against Joy, it is a tall order. She does not have the backing, nor the "political game" down to a science (the political arena would "eat her alive", as they say. Not a swipe; a sincere statement. She is "salt of the earth".).
Again, she is a lovely woman, and has done alot of good, especially with the keiki in the area.
JMO.
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