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government beach road complaints dec 2013
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12-29-2013, 05:26 PM
quote: Ive owned In Waa Waa For Ten Years...Do U Own In Waa Waa? Or U Renting Someones Cabin?Theres A Petition With Over 100 Owner Signatures....
12-30-2013, 05:15 AM
I own. Signing that petition yourself 100x doesn't count...nice try though.
12-30-2013, 05:57 AM
There's no need to sign a petition on the road issue, it won't amount to anything. They put one online a while back asking for speed humps along with the paving... it has around 70 legit signatures now and the rest appear to be emancipated childish rhetoric. I refused to sign that one. They are useless. The clock will keep ticking and eventually the unpaved sections will be paved also, it's inevitable (Nearly Half of the Waa Waa section is already paved).
- Armed citizens provide security of a free State.
12-30-2013, 06:57 AM
Sun,
The feelings regarding paving on the road are mixed amongst the collective here in Waa Waa. The County views it another way, they will adhere to the general wishes of the local community to a point. The point is based on feasibility with regard to how much money and human resource it consumes to maintain this gravel road. No-one except for 1 person within the last road meeting wanted no maintenance. 99+% want the road maintained and that is FACT. Paving is where the split occurs and is not part of the "maintaining" issue. So, the county paved a great deal of the road after the last road meeting to reduce maintenance demands. The county will continue to maintain the remaining sections of gravel and annually mow back the encroaching foliage. That routine will continue until the county can no-longer justify the expense in maintaining the gravel. The maintenance costs of the gravel are directly related to the volume of traffic use and the weather. When the volume of traffic increases enough to make maintenance no longer a reasonable option, they will pave the remaining sections to ease the road crews overall maintenance schedule. That's the bottom line scoop on the matter. The county evidently only has 2 times a year they can now afford to come out and re-grade/push stuff around. If you notice the road is in poor condition at this time and the quicker these conditions occur after grading the longer the road remains in disrepair... eventually the road will be in bad condition longer than it's in good condition and that's about the time the County will drop the hammer and pave the remaining gravel sections. - Armed citizens provide security of a free State.
12-30-2013, 07:35 AM
@ Pete Adams: Just to clarify what happened with Ka'ohe Homestead Rd., it was not the church that lobbied for paving, it was the Neighborhood Watch. At the time, the lava was heading toward our area and was almost 3 miles away, uphill. The County DPW had a town meeting in Kea'au about the Roads in Limbo issue, and sought data so they could prioritize their selection of limbo roads to maintain. The Ka'ohe NW convinced them, HCCivil Defense and the Fire Dept. that our road should have priority. It was only later that the lava took an abrupt turn and headed down to the Royal Gardens area (again) and we were spared.
As for the Roman Catholic Diocese in Honolulu that owns the 2,000+ acres of land between the homesteads and Pahoa, they have not yet decided what, if anything, to do with their land. If at any time they decide to sell or to do their own development of it, HELCO will surely be expected to provide electrical service. Then some of our neighbors will probably ask HELCO to come up the road just a bit more and provide service in Ka'ohe to. I won't be one of them. However, it's just a matter of time.
12-30-2013, 08:15 AM
quote: People have been saying that about the "private" subdivisions for decades... I was under the impression that County could only accept State funds when they bring the RIL "up to spec", but apparently the funds and "spec" are highly subjective.
12-30-2013, 03:02 PM
quote: I guess I moved to Thneedville where everyone has lots of unmet needs and eventually everything in nature will pay the price to meet those needy needs. A community of Once-lers tempted by "modernization" at any cost to nature, as long as their own short, selfish lives are a little plusher in their own eyes. Comfort is everything after all. Even with the warnings issued by the Lorax they voted their high speed road in. A beautiful road that promised them beautiful clean cars without a single inconvenient bump that nature seemed to delight in creating, sure some bumps were created by 100 year old mango tree roots and the other denizens of a lush jungle rain forest but to hell with that stuff, a clean, bump free road is a thing of delight! The equipment was mobilized and the crews marched in and began work(most leaned on shovels) but eventually the road was built and the damage done. Several years went by...the roadside trash that used to be a random tire or tv in the "old gravel road days" now blocked the once peekaboo glimpses of the sparkling ocean and the jungle. Neighbors didn't know eachother let alone talk or walk on the road which was now an expressway, no shakas because all were in a hurry. Missing pets could be found flattened in the road- they never had a chance. With stereos blasting and garbage flying shiny new cars zipped and ripped thru the jungle all equally in a hurry to get where they were going, some just driving in circles because they could without getting a little dirty. Times were great!!!Glorious!!! This road was better than any yellow brick road. I'm going to shorten this story and move to the end... Turns out that nature actually won this fight and covered the trash, the shiny cars, and the beautiful bump free road with a thick flow in one fell swoop. Deep inside her workshop Madame Pele smiles and gives her friend the Lorax a high five and they both get back to making a beautiful island. |
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