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Originally posted by riverwolf
Since I was born in Europe and lived in other locations outside the USA where canvas bags or other bag types were a daily usage , with out much thought.....it amazes me how hard/confusing it is for the rest of "us" to catch up.
No kidding. Heck, it wasn't that long ago (~25 years) that we hardly used plastic bags here, and I don't remember them being hailed as some miracle invention that changed shopping.
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I am glad that the threat will be less to the honu and other sea life...they like eat 'em. Change can be uneasy...but this one sounds like a winner to me. [
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Ken, now I KNOW we are in trouble. You mentioned the word "yield" in your remark regarding round-a-bouts. Oh boy....all I can think of is the lack of "yield" knowledge by drivers on Hwy 130 leaving the two-lane to one lane stretch. That doesn't go so well, does it. [
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Much ado about nothing. I'm stuffing a bunch of old accumulated plastic bags in my glovebox until I get into the habit of bringing my eco-bag.
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Awesome, should have been done years ago everywhere!!!
nothing wrong with Forcing smaller "Footprints" on the most environmentally polluting/wasteful people here...
....you know who you are
the $1.99 reusable bags at Foodland are free w/$25 purchase, they are heavy duty and have cool Hawaii/Local designs and best of all they hold about 3X more than the wasteful plastic and stand up better.... and why do you need to put your bags in your pocket?? take them from your car, put them into a cart and push it in the store ...not hard
next up making a law that every new home built will need to have some solar panels within design
save our indigenous and endemic Hawaiian Plants... learn about them, grow them, and plant them on your property, ....instead of all that invasive non-native garbage I see in most yards... aloha
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save our indigenous and endemic Hawaiian Plants... learn about them, grow them, and plant them on your property, ....instead of all that invasive non-native garbage I see in most yards... aloha
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Despite being a step in the "right" direction, the bag ban as written is fairly narrow; only "t-shirt" ("shopping") bags are banned at point of sale, almost any other plastic bag in any other context is still allowed, and you can still buy the shopping bags in bulk if you want.
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so......in the end will this help the environment, retailer, paper bag manufacturers or the consumers. Some of the stores switching back to paper - takes me back 40 years as well - paper for my kitchen trash as opposed to plastic that is easier to place on hangers the biggest impact on me......
As to conservation - I prefer to work on my ever smaller carbon footprint - I'll leave the regulation of the masses to the bag manufacture lobby and the radical environmentalists
speaking of which...... last time I went to a surf rider meeting in the mainland - the parking lot full of trendy brit fuel guzzler SUV's with surfboard racks......
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I know I have mentioned this before, but I work in retail, apparel to be exact.
We throw away mounds and mounds of plastic a day.
Just today, I threw away enough plastic
to fill a normal bathroom, floor to ceiling.
And that was a light day for my department.
Again in the scheme of thing stores bags are nothing.
A change in general philosophy about all plastics is needed.
Plastic bottles, garbage bags, on and on and on.
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I asked questions of a very environmentally minded friend last week:.
You replace reusable bags for plastic and what stats for their use - how long to do they have to be used to be better since they all seem to be made of unnatural material like plastic. The handles break, they do get tears, and then they go to the landfill?
Other questions -
Are they made in fair trade wage countries?
Are the made and then SHIPPED to the US?
Are we still cutting down trees to make paper bags?
What i see is the only real reducing carbon footprint reuseable bag is the one our grannies sew for us from old clothing that would go to goodwill? (I see the grannies having a whole new industry!)
I agree plastic bags are bad, but are we replacing bad with just "a little less bad"?
But yes the plastic bag ban is a drop in the 10000 gal catchment tank... although 1 mm in the right direction!