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Our board of directors do not appear to have any sense of urgency in developing a "Reasonable Precaution" policy which would address the (at least 2 ) "Notice of Violation" issued by the Hawaii Department of Health, Clean Air Branch. Unpaved roads in HPP, when not accommodating car traffic, DO NOT create a "Fugitive Dust" problem. Speed seems to be the culprit. I'll repeat that...Unpaved roads in HPP, when not accommodating car traffic, DO NOT create a "Fugitive Dust" problem. Speed seems to be the culprit. A bill establishing 15 MPH as the enforceable speed limit on our unpaved roads is BIG first step in this process. Posting 15 MPH speed limit signs on all unpaved roads is the next step, and resident consideration, (minimal dust, by travelling 15 MPH or less on unpaved roads) insures quiet enjoyment of the place we live in,and would mitigate the problem. Support bill 82
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you seem to think this is entertainment...Possible thousands of $$$$ pre day fine for "fugitive dust" caused by speed is not entertainment.
Actually the whole thing is VERY entertaining: in one corner, you have County not bothering to enforce the requirements (roads were to "meet standards" PRIOR to final subdivision approval) ... in the other corner, you have residents complaining about a situation that was well-known BEFORE they bought their home (on a dusty road).
Punchline: everyone will pay more for this, whether or not they live in HPP; the only winners will be the lawyer (as usual in Modern Amerika).
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Originally posted by kalakoa
quote:
Originally posted by Frank
you seem to think this is entertainment...Possible thousands of $$$$ pre day fine for "fugitive dust" caused by speed is not entertainment.
Actually the whole thing is VERY entertaining: in one corner, you have County not bothering to enforce the requirements (roads were to "meet standards" PRIOR to final subdivision approval) ... in the other corner, you have residents complaining about a situation that was well-known BEFORE they bought their home (on a dusty road).
bring your POSITIVE side to the table kalakoa...we've got to start the fix at some point...YOU may be just what is needed. support bill 82
Punchline: everyone will pay more for this, whether or not they live in HPP; the only winners will be the lawyer (as usual in Modern Amerika).
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ha! fouled up the previous post....
bring your POSITIVE side to the table kalakoa...we've got to start the fix at some point...YOU may be just what is needed. support bill 82
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bring your POSITIVE side to the table kalakoa...we've got to start the fix at some point...YOU may be just what is needed. support bill 82
I'm POSITIVE the County will not do what is necessary: take control of all "private" roads, and raise taxes until they're brought "up to code".
I'm also POSITIVE this will require an expensive lawsuit.
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no fair! you can't have it both ways...beat up government AND county must take take control of private roads...wear is your positive solution? something with out county total control please
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jeezzz! coffee kick! where?
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something with out county total control please
Currently:
1. Laws in place at the time these subdivisions were created require all roads to be paved prior to final plat approval.
2. County allowed the subdivisions to be finalized without paved roads.
3. County is therefore ultimately liable for all damages related to the unpaved roads.
4. It will take a very expensive lawsuit to "force" County to acknowledge their responsibility.
Alternately: if County wants to claim that "nothing can be done" because these roads are "private", fine, but that "nothing" needs to be 100%, including telling the State DoH to butt out.
I have no objection to County installing taxpayer-funded signage on ALL "private" roads if that's what it takes to make them "private enough".
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private enough for What?
to my knowledge, there has not been a request for tax-payer funded signage...only an appeal for support of a bill, bill 82, which will allow HPP options not available to us at present...
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to my knowledge, there has not been a request for tax-payer funded signage...
Technically the request for publically-funded enforcement ... which requires posted signage, especially where the limits differ from implied "prime facie" limits.
