Homeless & crime here!!!

[dakine]

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Originally posted by Aaron

..There is no "Aloha" with these people..

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that's certainly not a reason to abandon our aloha for them

[HereOnThePrimalEdge]

A state senator on Oahu has been in the news recently for his solution to their local homeless situation. He wields a sledgehammer to destroy the metal shopping carts many homeless people use to transport their belongings. He looks like he's too young to have had any involvement with the Vietnam War, but maybe he's a student of history and the "we had to destroy the village in order to save the village" theory:

http://gawker.com/lawmaker-says-violence...1467472483

[bananahead]

lol

take a step back and read all the fluff

needles?? feces? stolen TVs? lol did you actually see this, or just knew (imagined) it???

the people of Pahoa are NOT all homeless have you asked any of them if they have a home?? haha
ie
I hang in Pahoa on the streets talking story on sunny days yet I have a home, what gives? I also have dreadlocks and a goatee and spookie tattoos oh NO!..... I also own 3 acres of paradise all paid for

please go back to HPP and bake some cookies for Beaver and Whitey.... stop the newbie-like paranoia and uninformed fear mongering

aloha
(thanks for the laugh)



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[Guest]

I not only saw it, felt it, but also not willing to ignore the problems. I don't doubt anything you say Bananahead, you in fact probably know more about the town than you lead on. John( Mr aloha) Kealoha is great to see everyday with his smile and friendly eyes, But the one's coming in groves in front of the banks now, that feels different. Other proper words I might have used for you and your friends then is loiterers hanging out in front of Pahoa's main artery of businesses. Read carefully next time to see I did not stick around to LOOK for needles. No intentions to fear monger only make aware of the increasing new breed.

[csgray]

Bananahead,
Gypsy was talking about Wailoa park in Hilo, I work in downtown Hilo on the Bayfront and when I go to work in the early morning there are always people sleeping in the doorways, sometimes whole families. There regularly is also human feces left in doorways and the alleys, so I believe Gypsy's story about Wailoa. Homelessness is a social problem which is sometimes addressed by police actions, sometimes by the community, and sometimes just ignored. Public bathrooms that are open 24 hours would be a good start for any community that has a homeless population, since people still need to poop when the bathrooms are locked up.

As a middle aged woman who isn't all that fast on her feet any more, I am glad I don't have to run that gauntlet of aggressive panhandlers to use the ATM at the bank in Pahoa, and I am pretty street wise and not particularly judgmental about homeless people. But groups of ragged looking guys drinking 40 ouncers out of paper bags all day usually make me avoid their immediate area, because I am pretty sure I don't want to be in their movie. More or less the same crowd has hassled me on Sundays when I've used the bathrooms at the community Center. I doubt I am the only person who feels that way, most people just want to go about their business unmolested, including being aggressively panhandled while going to the ATM or using a public bathroom. I also see lots of other people just hanging out in Pahoa talking story and greeting friends and neighbors, those folks don't bother me at all.

Carol

[Hawaii Bound]

I agree with Carol on this one

[Hawaii Bound]

Sorry for the accidental double post. I wasn't logged in and I tried to correct my post but it double posted because I had to log in again.

[dayna]

Carol, I really liked your post. It's quite similar to the way I feel.

Dayna

http://www.FarmingAloha.com
www.E-Z-Caps.com

[Guest]

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Originally posted by Aaron

@ Eric, I don't think Alcohol is the problem. It's other far worse drugs curtailing these souls. And there is't much anyone can do once a person gives up their own personal responsibility for themselves. I'm being nice right now, as I have little respect for these types of people. People that are in sincere need of help, that still have a sense of personal responsibility, will find help and get better. Thieves and drug addicts don't fall in this category- in my opinion. There is no "Aloha" with these people

I've earned everything I am and have in this life so I cannot related to these bags of crap loitering around Pahoa. I think it's going to get much worse, as Obie described; our govt is running out of money and the middle class (even in hawaii) is dwindling. it's only a matter of time till they feel even more entitled to what you have.

And yes, I'd be a little pissed off if I had to drive 35 miles for some drinks.

Living on the side of creation.

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So, let me understand this.

You "live on the side of creation," blame the homeless situation for doing "far worse drugs" than alcohol, and would be pissed if YOU had to drive 35 miles to get your buzz on.

Actually, don't bother answering. I fully understand your problem.

[pander75]

I have mentioned the homeless / drug dealer problem several times over the years to the employees at First Hawaiian Bank and Cash & Carry. Every time they told me that when they call the police they never come, of if they do it's after so much time that the problem people have moved on. After years of getting hassled at First Hawaiian Bank I closed my account and opened one at CU Hawaii. Now that Cash & Carry has closed I wonder if it will be more obvious when people are hanging around outside looking for trouble? I've definitely noticed that ever since the police station moved off of Main Street that we see the police a lot less in Pahoa town. Yeah I know the police are busy, but at least before they had a presence as they were going to or from their station.

Just driving down Main Street today not one but THREE drunk/messed up guys walked into the street in front of my truck. I wonder what will happen when they start construction on the infamous roundabout and all the traffic gets shifted off the highway? Oh yeah, there was a police car at 7-11 but he just bought a Big Gulp and went on his merry way...