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I find it inconceivable that some may be speculating on near future property values outside of lower Puna, in a time like this; off course my expectations on human behavior, are way too high.
When we have the possibility of thousands being displaced one way of the other, AND the government does not have a plan, expect chaos everywhere in the island. I reckon that we will be indeed the last frontier and the feeble minded County will have to impose some type of marshall law.
There is some fool selling a one room shack in HPP for 92000 dollars as advertised by a realtor; now if that is not greed I don't know what is.
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Johnd:
Thousands displaced. No government plan. Chaos everywhere. Martial law.. Hmm...fear monger much?
What's gonna happen if the lava cuts 130 or Railroad or Beach is this: Lower Puna will just get more rural.
Imagine as if Puna got moved 10 or 20 or 30 miles further out to sea overnight, but with a bridge back.
Land wont become worthless. Entire subdivisions won't sit empty. You won't hear the mournful howl of a single coyote at noon as a tumbleweed blows past.
Things will change. Some will go. Some will stay. Some will move in. Businesses will fail, new ones will start up. Life will go on.
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LOL [  ] Could not have said it better and totally agree. It's not like the area is totally gone. It will just take a bit longer to get to major services and or work if people still choose to make the drive. Some people for years have driven from Hilo to Kona for work on a daily basis and/or visa’ versa. Which is considerable farther than the trip from lower Puna to Hilo would be and the drive from lower Puna to Kona would be about the same even if CoC has to be used. So instead of 25 miles to Hilo it now will be 70 that’s IF CoC road has to be used temporally. HWY 130 will eventually reopen again..
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Not everyone who wonders about property values is a land speculator. In fact, if you read the comments on Punaweb I can't think of a single poster who I would consider a property speculator.
There are many reasons people want to know where property values are headed. For example, I have no intention of selling my home any time soon, but if assessments in HPP go up, my taxes will as well. There are direct effects to people even if they don't buy or sell; more traffic, more neighbors, less neighbors, etc...
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The golden snorkle says;
There is some fool ranting about the dispossessed hordes invading his subdivision, creating a hell, and lowering property values; now if that is not greed I don't know what is.
New hit TV show; "The Walking Punatics".
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snorkle -
I would definitely watch "The Walking Punatics!" Nothing like watching an hour of tropical zombie hoards before bedtime. Sometimes I feel like I already do that when I go into Malama Market after 10 PM on a Friday night.
But might I add a lava related twist? Have the invaders stumble through the advancing flow on their way to HPP, and make them "The Firewalking Punatics." Burning clothes, singed hair, Lynyrd Skynyrd playing over the credits, "What's That Smell." AMC would definitely have a new hit show on their hands.
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One thing is certain, the claim "Puna is the fastest growing district in Hawaii" is over and done.
One factor driving this past growth was the combination of "cheap lots" while commuting to work, mostly Hilotown, that was allowing Hawaii living to be affordable for many people. Some people may try to migrate further north. However, this requires having the means to get a place north of the flow, plus possibly absorbing the loss of an inaccessible residence south of the flow. It seems more people will face the fact they have to go back to the mainland and start over, rather than large scale relocation closer to town. The few that can adjust to being cutoff from town are going to be in a small minority. Many elderly moved to south Puna because it was affordable on their retirement income. If anybody thinks goods and services brought to the south side of the flow are going to be cheaper, then they are dreaming.
HPP, Orchidland and Ainaloa are just one major breakout with a north flow from being in the same conditions as Leilani, Nanawale, and the other south Puna developments.
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That word "Punatic" is so offensive, even to the ka po'e haole, who created that word. Makes all of us sound like lunatics. The perception of Puna, all over this State, is exactly that; Bunch of lunatics. Auwe! Sick of that word. Sorry.
We (ALL of us) are ka po'e o Puna. (The people of Puna).
As to "value", we value our land differently than the calculation of dead president's on paper. Our aina is invaluable.
JMO.
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opihikao -
I'm sure punatic has different meanings and connotations to each person. I just see the word in the same way as an early colonist would call himself a Yankee Doodle Dandy, or Green Bay Packer fans now describe themselves as Cheeseheads. They even wear cheeseheads!
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As long as we are spinning off topic, how about the reality show "Nomads with Gonads". (You heard the name first from me, so copyrights accordingly, LOL) and no offense to the ladies, just sounds rugged as the life in a remote area with lava for the drama.
On the topic side to bring things back to subject, those that keep track on monetary value of their home on an investment level seem to be too obsessed with the buy low, sell high mentality and are here for the wrong reasons as Opihikao stated in the closing of post.
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