Hawaii Island anti-vaccination policies

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Discuss Truth quote:
"I plan on putting my foot into their mouths eventually, and put a stop to this pure character assignation of TEH - along with anybody "they" don't like.

Call it what you will, but the TL comment I made was 100% called for.

I have decided that I will be using my vast resources and will soon be taking a very active part in finally shutting up these 3 rabid puke holes, named KathyH, RJ and Sativa.

It may take me months, but their demise in this town is soon coming.

Complements of "Ken!"


Good afternoon Everybody!

Did anybody read D.T./Ken threaten "the ass wipe and the toothless crack head"? We have already had one of Graham Ellis's fans threaten to "burn our house down". Now you threaten to kick our asses?

We are protected by something Tiffany rejects, PRAYER! That is something TEH should do, for when it has all been said and done, she is going to need a miracle in this election .

Get it out, D.T./Ken! We hope you feel better. If there is one thing I noticed about D.T. and Ken, is that neither knows how to bottle their juice. They are so angry, that's all they can do is spew,and that is what Tiffany does, on the Big Island Chronicle, twitter, and on stage, up close and personal, at the Akebono theater.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CNbsuwkO4IM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xX0XHE-R_ug
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WXAxQq1uXNE

Spoken like a child of a true Texan. TEH is finally coming out . She should have gone into the military to get some discipline and then taken a stab at political office.

I am gonna say it again, I did not call her mother a prostitute. I pretended during a game I invented, "internet dozens", (I took the theory from a real game and brought it to the internet), to go straight to what I think is the core freaking problem with this woman....Hurt people hurt people.

It's called confrontational therapy and the dozens game is one way to start it.

TEH, I think, is really mad at her mother. I would surmise that her mother was a strong woman. That is why, I believe, she has a problem dealing with strong women. IMO. Maybe that's why I often see Tiffany hanging out with a bunch of young girls. And the ones I have talked to, after they worked with her, don't like her.

I know from a really good source that there is animosity between TEH and her husband's mother. So much for a happy home-life. Animosity between her and her surrogate mama, Emily, who she constantly humiliated during Auntie's second term. Emily was the first councilperson to let her legislative assistant, TEH, work from home so she could nurse her daughter and still keep her job and receive a paycheck. How magnanimous is that! And TEH would have us believe that she nursed and cared for her newborn out of the surf shop where she lived with her husband for 5 years while they BOTH claimed home exemptions on properties in two other districts.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZfImFAdY1_8

see B.I.C archives***Commentary***No Ill-Will Toward Councilwoman Emily Naeole; Blogging And Writing About Our Puna Rep Doesn't Make Me A Traitor

I would post the link but I have been locked out of B.I.C. for over two years. I was blocked from B.I.C for no good reason and so were many others. Tiffany is NOT very tolerant and easily set off!

Now D.T., Tiffany's lapdog, is mad at, Kathy, who is also one of TEH's former mother figures. Remember Kathy is even older then Emily. And RJ is older than both of them.

Kathy worked together with TEH on the 'Lackey cartoonish thing'. Then TEH would not direct her attorney, Steve Strauss, to give Kathy any of the files after it was over, despite the fact, that Kathy had worked on it for so long. Tiffany just dismissed her. Tiffany does not /cannot respect strong women. Plus Tiffany has a hit list. Not a good role model for the future generation. But that is just my opinion.

The thing about this folks, is that we are telling you the truth about our experience with TEH, in the public arena. RJ and I, are her wicked stepsisters, in this play called "Tiffarella". And the community, I hope, will see that Tiffarella does NOT deserve to go to the ball.

We can't decide whether it is going to be a musical or a drama.

It is Robert Herrick who pointed out " What ye cannot quench, pull down, Spoil a house to save a town: Better 'tis that one should fall, Than by one to hazard all."

It comes from the poem, Scare-fire,about a fire that you have to put out by tearing down a house and maybe the house next to it because there is not enough water. And we feel that way about Tiffany Edwards Hunt.

I am so glad Danny Paleka entered this race. It gives us a choice and some HOPE.

[kalakoa]

We're still doing this?

[missydog1]

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Originally posted by hikatz

Ken, this restrained anger has to be difficult for you, oh I forgot this is Punaweb!
I had my doubts that DiscussTruth was Ken, until reading the last three posts and the bitter diatribe against Kathy.

The TL comment was a disgusting low blow, what a tacky, cheap shot! But then remembering your explicit rants against him on another site, it is something I would expect from you when you are attacked.
Kathy (my opinion) you are perpetuating the problem, by stirring it up with your disparaging remarks against DT, is it worth it?[]

We need a rational discussion about Tiffany's candidacy for the council. The allegations, disputed timeline and comments brought up in this and other topics, raised questions about Tiffany's candidacy that I was not aware of, I hope they will be answered before the elections.

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hikatz, addressing your last comment first, I agree. I started to draft a rational topic summing up points a couple days ago. I would appreciate any feedback on how such a topic should look and what points you, and anyone else here, want to see presented.

I didn't go through with the topic, because I first want to ask if we can have one topic here where we can focus on TEH and not on the personal qualities of her supporters or non-supporters. Just the candidate, ma'am. [] I'm happy to abide by that. It would be up to Rob whether I could ask for that in the topic. If it will just be more of this, there's not much point trying to discuss.

Re what you said about having your doubts on Ken and DT, well, leilanidude recognized the identity immediately, posted as such, and so did I. LD and I have never talked outside this forum.

Stirring up DT/Ken, you are correct, I don't find any value in provoking her/him, and was actually surprised that DT/Ken totally lost it in response. I must have hit the nerve of all nerves.

I sincerely wished to explain to Carol that I had figured out our mutual disconnect, so we could all be on the same page. If others wish to see Ken as a totally independent "person" hailing from "Hawaiian Acres" -- that is up to you, and I am not here to tell you how to look at her/him. I look at her/him as at minimum sanctioned by TEH to make his attacks.

Not here to prove it or wrangle back and forth about it, just explaining where I am coming from, and why it did not shock me when Sativa initiated her "dozens game" towards Ken/DT as a stand-in for Tiffany. Carol asked me more than once why I was not more reactive, and I do care about what Carol thinks (don't care at all what DT/Ken thinks).

Thank you hikatz for speaking out about the ugly rant though. I much appreciate your courage and your good sense. []

Kathy

[missydog1]

Now, back to the candidate, the Trib did the candidate profiles on Sunday, and TEH declined to make any further statement on the voter fraud or tax fraud, so it would appear she is more concerned about the criminal investigation than she would admit earlier.

I don't know why any candidate innocent of malfeasance would hold back from making a public statement that might help them with the public perception just before the election.

Kathy

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http://www.waronwethepeople.com/big-isla...enge-porn/

How do you think that Tiffany ended up on Len Horowitz's site with RJ Hampton?

[Rob Tucker]

DiscussTruth won't be commenting for awhile. DiscussTruth is on an extended vacation.

Assume the best and ask questions.

Punaweb moderator

[Anxious Messiah]

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Originally posted by KathyH

I don't know why any candidate innocent of malfeasance would hold back from making a public statement that might help them with the public perception just before the election.

Kathy

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Well Kathy, if you are ever under investigation by law enforcement or have active litigation AND have a good lawyer, you will know why.

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Don't speak unless you can improve on the silence.

[missydog1]

Plenty of candidates have addressed legal problems and scandals with public statements.

Kathy

[TomK]

Posting here early in the morning from the mainland as I needed to check on the current weather at the summit and Ana plus some work stuff. But what I see here is a very successful campaign from Kathy and Sativa to distract everyone from my original question and turn it into a thread about TEH. Shame on both of you. I've little to say about DT/Ken, it was kind of obvious both posters were the same person from the get go. No one else is as clumsy as "they" are with the English language.

So I guess my question is now this: given that Sativa, RJ and now Kathy won't answer the original question in a satisfactory manner, what do the surviving candidates think about vaccination policies and what are their views about the subject?

PS. AM - that's absolutely correct. Let the lawyer handle it and say nothing other than "no comment". You can even make that a public statement.

[missydog1]

Tom, I am in no way trying to distract from the original question. I have no stake in doing so. I thought that your question was answered a while back.

The topic on TEH was locked, is why the conversation gravitated over here to an open topic where the original topic had stalled out. I'm a bit upset that you are suspecting anything so devious.

There is a fairly comprehensive statement from RJ on Punaweb from earlier in the year that is not directly on point (was posted before your question), but it does go over the history of the steam vent purchase proposal and somewhat mentions the resolution.

I will see if I can find it for you, if that will help bring the topic back to where you want it.

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given that Sativa, RJ and now Kathy won't answer the original question in a satisfactory manner

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What? Honestly Tom, I hope you realize that I never spoke to either RJ or Sativa before they joined Punaweb, so I cannot possibly "answer" a question about events in 2009 from their perspective.

I did what I could, which was to find you the actual text of the final Resolution that was passed and to remind people that the context of the Resolution was a time of panic over swine flu i.e. H1N1 influenza and a resulting state of world health emergency declared. The declaration gave the government power to order mandatory vaccinations or quarantine, whereas in normal times there are certain exemptions to required vaccinations that are allowed by law.

Horowitz is a wack job IMHO and his sideshow was not real helpful at the time or now.

Oh, and there are various accounts of the time that all agree that RJ and Sativa were property caretakers while Horowitz was gone, and they weren't living on his property when RJ was hired as aide to Emily.

And Sativa was a volunteer assistant, who was not on the public payroll, not at all. All that is well "chronicled" on the BIC from that era, as Tiffany mentioned Sativa's volunteer status many times. Cherish Almeida was also a volunteer/intern in the office, who also ran for Council this year.

Kathy