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do you support a candidate who has committed a felony or is likely to have
Ethics and integrity are a good thing which I fully support.
That said, I'm still skeptical that electing different candiates will actually result in changes for Puna. Elections come and go, but bad planning is forever.
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"as you know, the current voter fraud case is about voters trying to change the outcome of an election by voting out of district.. It is not about candidate residency. It is about felony election fraud. The question is do you support a candidate who has committed a felony or is likely to have done so. I don't think convicted felons can hold office in this state, can they?"
Quote from KathyH who apparently is the judge ,jury and executioner.
Really.One vote was going to change the outcome of an election ?? Could it be she voted in the district the surf shop was in because it was a bigger concern than her other residence ?
Give it up lady.You have a personal vendetta against Tiffany.
And no I do not support her,I just don't think it's fair that a person who doesn't even live in lower Puna should spend so much time posting vindictive lies about anyone.
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"The question is do you support a candidate who has committed a felony or is likely to have done so.
I don't think convicted felons can hold office in this state, can they?"
As far as I know, TEH has not been found guilty of any felony, has she?
Or as Obie mentioned, is KathyH the judge and jury as well as a member of the citizens coalition? I suppose it would streamline government procedure.
When is the next citizens coalition meeting? This is a great opportunity for you to add some interested people to your group.
"I'm at that stage in life where I stay out of discussions. Even if you say 1+1=5, you're right - have fun." - Keanu Reeves
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Really.One vote was going to change the outcome of an election ?? Could it be she voted in the district the surf shop was in because it was a bigger concern than her other residence ?
How do we know it was only one vote? If she did it, how many others have as well? Did she convince others to do the same? Hopefully, we will find out, soon.
I do not believe that even one fraudulent vote is acceptable.
Obie quote:"And no I do not support her,I just don't think it's fair that a person who doesn't even live in lower Puna should spend so much time posting vindictive lies about anyone."
Obie, point out the 'lie'.
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I do not believe that trial by public opinion is validated by our legal system. Although I have some senior moments, I'm pretty sure I remember a school lesson about innocent until proven guilty and benefit of the doubt. Lots of people have been victimized by persons who were either misinformed, misinterpreted what they learned, or were downright vindictive - and later they were exonerated. But the stigma casts a long shadow. Thus, often the finger-pointers raise more red flags than their victims (Oh, if so-and-so has such a h----on for him or her, he or she must have done something right.) Consider the accuser's credibility pending more conclusive information.
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A "trial by public opinion" sounds like a definition of an election.
Assume the best and ask questions.
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point out the 'lie'
I believe a statement was made to the effect that Uncle Robert is exempt from the Special Use Permit requirement. This is patently false.
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"as you know, the current voter fraud case is about voters trying to change the outcome of an election by voting out of district"
Among other statements, I believe this could be considered to be a lie.
Perhaps KathyH could name all of the voters involved.
Rene Siracusa Quote:"I do not believe that trial by public opinion is validated by our legal system. Although I have some senior moments, I'm pretty sure I remember a school lesson about innocent until proven guilty and benefit of the doubt. Lots of people have been victimized by persons who were either misinformed, misinterpreted what they learned, or were downright vindictive - and later they were exonerated. But the stigma casts a long shadow. Thus, often the finger-pointers raise more red flags than their victims (Oh, if so-and-so has such a h----on for him or her, he or she must have done something right.) Consider the accuser's credibility pending more conclusive information."
Rene, I would expect you to come out and say things like this as you defend your clique. Ms. Malama O'Puna or Ms. Malama O'Rene? Remember, it is the county clerk, Stewart Maeda, who filed this complaint not us. And if a trial is to occur, it will be, the County vs. Mrs. Tiffany Edwards Hunt. The only thing this woman can do is save the people a lot of money and resign from the race and face and the music.
The only thing we don't know is why Tiffany did it. What was her motive and what was she expecting to get out of these actions? Satisfaction? Only Tiffany can tell us that. Why don't you ask her or do you know already? Rene, one thing I am very happy about is that you don't have to socialize with us and we don't have to socialize with you but we can all go to Tiffany's trial together. Unless she pleads guilty.
Rene, would you like to see the overwhelming proof based on public records, as well as, Tiffany's own admission in the newspaper? And just because, Tiffany, has hired an attorney, whose job it is, to create ambiguity where there is certainty, that doesn't make her any less guilty in my eyes. Tiffany's integrity, honesty and transparency, is truly suspect. I can drop off a summary of the evidence, for you to examine, at clique central, because it is all a matter of public record. What day does your group meet?
Rene, what do I care what you say about RJ and I. Punaweb is my testing ground and my playground. I enjoy being here. And I know Pele is taking care of all of it. I don't have to do a thing. Look who is going to be incased forever. I told you a tombstone. What are you going to call Main Street association now? I always called it, the pain, (in you know where), street association. In fact, I consider you to be one of the ring leaders of the clique. One of the 'gun molls'. Madie ain't got the mana or the smarts to take anyone anywhere.
René, I hope you never forget, what your clique member, Tiffany, the woman, you don't want us to fry and we don't want to see in office, said, in the post below. It is a sample of the kind of temperament she is capable of displaying. In this post, Tiffany, reveals her hit list for 2012, these are some of the people who will not be welcome in her store or at her candidate forum that was held on her birthday July 28th. And remember this is typical Tiffany in 2012. She has gotten really good at it since then folks.
A Warning From Tiffany
« on: May 31, 2012, 01:01:07 am »
Tiffany asked me to tell you guys the following (via email... and I will copy and paste quote the following... (all the other stuff before this was just fodder I will let the attorneys explain to Tiff about) ... however I did forward my reply to her attorney Ted Hong and my Attorney (this is just the part that refers to this website):
.........Tell your friend Odom who has denied me entrance to Puna Online that my husband has a right to refuse service at his business and he reserves that right with him. Odom's photo will be printed and posted in the shop by tomorrow morning before doors open for business.The same holds true for Cathy Dumond/Emery/Kapohocat. Having seen her personally at the Kapoho Vacationland yard sale, I have a face behind the name to turn away at the door. She is not welcome in my family's business, nor is she welcome near my family's property in Pahoa or Kapoho. If John Rabi/Savu Savu/Fook Yew comes from Kona to Pahoa, that guy isn't welcome near our family's business/property either. I will recognize him from his Realtor ads. Nor is Mark Dugan welcome. Nor is G Komohana welcome. Nor is Andrew welcome. Nor are you welcome. I consider all of you people to be a cyber gang who have aided and abetted, if not participated yourselves, in cyber-harassment and, in the course, you have caused some serious problems. I have reams of paper detailing how you have all been cheerleaders to the harassment and torment that I have endured for seven months now. You all cheered for another woman to be tormented and harassed for much longer than that. Please note that along with being 86ed from my husband's business, you are not welcome at the candidate forum Big Island Chronicle will be hosting at Akebono Theater on July 28. Any advertisement for this forum will include the disclaimer that Big Island Chronicle reserves the right to refuse admittance and I will reserve that right with you and your cyber gang. Stop referring to me online. And stop referring to my husband's business online. You have caused enough harm. Tiffany Edwards Hunt
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