Hawaii ranked worst state to make a living

[akpls]

>>"#10 - I have never scraped ice off my windshield before I left for >>work."


I've always said that when I retire the only place I want to see ice is in my drink!

[kalakoa]

Then you want it like where you came from and grumble on and on about other places and how it is there.

No.

I want a "best-of-breed" solution that incorporates technology as a means of extending the aloha lifestyle. The right mix would go a long long way towards sustainability, with a community working together to avoid the problems caused by the collapse of society.

http://www.hawaiitribune-herald.com/news...trainwreck

[HereOnThePrimalEdge]

#4 - It may rain on the drive to work, it may even rain a lot on the way to work, but at least the palm trees aren't on fire. In the rain:
https://instagram.com/p/5SNpBqua28/?take...richfarmla

[pahoated]

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Originally posted by Kapohocat
Wyoming has a lot of well paying oil field jobs for the last few years. But because of that their housing is expensive. (got a friend there who has been there for 30 years+).

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The oil fields are collapsing, if they are depending on fracking ($70 to $100 per barrel to pump out). The Saudi's have already said they make quite a bit of profit from $20 per barrel oil, since they don't need to drill new wells, just increase output. If 2016 sees oil go down to $30 per barrel, there are going to be major collapses across the entire middle of the mainland, even off-shore at $50 per barrel to pump out isn't going to be competitive. New well drilling has essentially stopped already. Another thing people are probably not paying attention to is the Panama canal width expansion was just completed, meaning much larger freighters and tankers direct from the Gulf and the East coast to the west. The west coast longshoremen played their strip poker cards too recklessly and they will be naked pretty soon. There is going to be massive migration out of the middle of the country next year, thousands of migrated oil field workers needing to go west or east, probably flooding to the southeast where there will be jobs. That will be just fine to see them flood to the southeast, where it will be easier to make a living, much easier than making a living in Hawaii.

"Aloha also means goodbye. Aloha!"

[tada]

Check it out! I read California gas prices literally 1 dolla higher than Hawaii. If Hawaii prices that high it would affect Big Island folk worse than Oahu but those 5 hour commutes even it out.

[Newgirl]

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Newgirl, Aloha, and welcome to Puna and Moku o Keawe.

Have a lovely evening all. We may be "ranked worst state to make a living", however, we are blessed to have such a challenge. Life could be far worse.

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Mahalo for the warm welcome. Indeed, some of the best places on the mainland can't compare in most aspects to Puna. But then, I'm less partial to money, and more appreciative of clean air and water....we all have our own priorities.

[leilanidude]

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Originally posted by tada

Check it out! I read California gas prices literally 1 dolla higher than Hawaii. If Hawaii prices that high it would affect Big Island folk worse than Oahu but those 5 hour commutes even it out.

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No, they aren't. Good site for checking:

http://www.gasbuddy.com/

[Newgirl]

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Originally posted by kalakoa

I want a "best-of-breed" solution that incorporates technology as a means of extending the aloha lifestyle. The right mix would go a long long way towards sustainability, with a community working together to avoid the problems caused by the collapse of society.

http://www.hawaiitribune-herald.com/news...trainwreck

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Totally agree with you, and autarky should always be the goal. The ability to grow food is one major reason why I felt compelled to move here, and in this regard, Big Island seems like the final frontier. I hope the trend is towards island produce, and not soy or corn seeds.

I'm also with you on growing the infrastructure without losing the spirit. It would be a travesty to turn Puna into a typical American suburb.

[Newgirl]

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Originally posted by leilanidude

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Originally posted by tada

Check it out! I read California gas prices literally 1 dolla higher than Hawaii. If Hawaii prices that high it would affect Big Island folk worse than Oahu but those 5 hour commutes even it out.

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No, they aren't. Good site for checking:

http://www.gasbuddy.com/

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According to that site, LA average price is $4.25, so he's almost dead on.

[pahoated]

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Originally posted by tada

Check it out! I read California gas prices literally 1 dolla higher than Hawaii. If Hawaii prices that high it would affect Big Island folk worse than Oahu but those 5 hour commutes even it out.

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California gas prices are dominated by their local refineries and much more tax. There really isn't much comparison between California and Hawaii when it comes to oil consumption. California guzzles gas, Hawaii sips it. Hawaii refineries are local and get the oil from Mexico at crude oil price, not Barclay's. The gas prices will start leveling off soon, then they will start tapering down. If Iran oil starts entering the free market, oil and gas prices will really start going down. Good for the driver, havoc for global economies.

"Aloha also means goodbye. Aloha!"