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And it continues...
https://dlnr.hawaii.gov/mk/files/2017/07...er-101.pdf
The end of page one and the whole of page two are entertaining reading. For instance:
"
we were doming down the submit three was 'n' ho'okupu by Ahu o Kauakoko once stood.".
How can you possibly argue with that?
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The hearing officer Judge Riki Amano has issued her "PROPOSED FINDINGS OF FACT, CONCLUSIONS OF LAW AND DECISION AND ORDER":
https://dlnr.hawaii.gov/mk/files/2017/07...oposal.pdf
...drumroll please....
"Based on the foregoing findings of fact and conclusions of law, the CDUA and the TMT Management Plan is recommended for approval."
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OK, this is a good start, but we know the lunatic fringe Hawaiians will appeal. Is there a mechanism in place to take this directly to the State Supreme Court, or do we have to endure a year or two of more nonsense and whining?
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the lunatic fringe Hawaiians will appeal.
Let them. Some of their testimony dug a deep hole. I doubt the fringiest of the fringe recognize what effect they may have had on the findings, so they'll only continue to dig deeper on appeal.
All in all, good news today. Can't wait for construction to begin.
Four people are in a room and seven leave. How many have to enter again before it's empty?
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Given that Judge Amano would have had to be insane to find in favor of the "protectors", I assumed this would be the outcome all along. Along with that I have wondered about appeals. Given the deadline I fear the "protectors" just have to keep the circus going until the clock runs out. Please tell me it doesn't have to be that way.
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Well, there's potentially another contested case hearing in the pipeline (currently under appeal I believe) and then there will almost certainly be an appeal over this one, I suspect MarkP is correct.
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Is there a mechanism in place to take this directly to the State Supreme Court
Yes; this rule change was made during the contested case hearing, and has not itself been challenged (yet).
"protectors" just have to keep the circus going until the clock runs out
Possibly balanced by different "protectors" over at the Canary Islands site, in which case TMT merely has to decide which judicial system is a better fit.
In the meantime, it does create another black hole where I can send my resume...
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"[...]the fringiest of the fringe[...]"
I love that phrase! No matter what, though, they will have another opportunity before any appeal - the BLNR now has to go through the process of deciding whether to accept Amano's recommendation which will include hearing those opposed to her decision.
Even if all the hurdles are overcome and the TMT project is still feasible here, we'll be back to protests and road blocks on Mauna Kea.
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I thought the Summit land of Mauna Kea belonged to the People
I thought the DHHL land was intended for Native Hawaiians to live on...
I also thought the "rule of law" applied equally to everyone, including those who build illegal encampments and roadblocks on Mauna Kea...
Will the people of Hawaii have a chance to vote or have any say
I thought the people of Hawaii (the county) voted to decriminalize personal possession of marijuana... I also seem to recall "the people" being against the building code "reforms"...
Guess maybe I'm wrong about lots of things...
