TMT - Contested Case Hearing Status - Hilo

[leilanidude]

The law in place, to be followed is a speed limit of 45 MPH...
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Actually, it has been dropped to 35mph for a couple years now, which is way too low.

[HereOnThePrimalEdge]

it has been dropped to 35mph... way too low.

Thanks. I hope gypsy will weigh in on this. He may even feel it necessary that we get a Red Road EIS, archeology study and inventory of affected flora & fauna. If ohiagrrl is somewhere out there, she might suggest we undertake a thorough excavation for remnant DNA, with core sampling every 5 feet, on both sides of the road, even under the asphalt in places. It may only require a temporary road closure of 2 years or so for a complete evaluation. Then we should be able to determine if 35 MPH is permissible, because under current conditions it may be too fast for a small vocal minority of two (functioning) cylinder Yugo drivers on the island. And the occasional Vespa.

The Donner Party really wasn't that great of a party, was it?

[TomK]

"I hope our keiki fight for science and reason to benefit all mankind, and fight against superstition and ignorance."

Thank you, randomq.

[punaticbychoice]

Yes, yes, yes, yes, yes !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[leilaniguy]

Amen to that. I'm always for science. I don't usually get caught up in this, but Gypsy, what do you really want? To go back to spears and clubs? Blood sacrifice? You seem to enjoy western ways, after all you are on a computer, probably have a TV too. Put your money where your mouth is maybe. Go off grid, offline and live in a grass shack for a year or two.

[TomK]

He's a greenkeeper at a golf course for rich people on the mainland. Make of that what you want.

[leilaniguy]

I figured as much.

[Guest]

The continued bashing by some gets old and tiring unless i try and return it once in awhile.

This forum as great and informative as it may be for some, is majority Haole like me with Haole views and opinions. The Hawaiians or Kanaka rarely have much to say on this site or other sites because they are more private by nature and less likely to have or want the technology like computers, T.V's, cell phones and internet. The Hawaiians like to stay connected to their Aina and families. They have A mentality of Haole kind folks stay and hang with Hoale kine folks and Hawaiians stay and hang with other Hawaiians. Maybe many of your Grandmothers said or tried to express the same to you decades ago about the ways of the Blacks and Whites. jmo
King TomK is a foreign person to these islands just doing one of his jobs. He has no children, land or real connection to these Islands or it's generous Hawaiian people. He is no stranger to other sites and forums, He Enjoys drinking foreign beers and dealing with folks like me while voicing his opinions on large telescopes and new developments.
HOTPE is a Classic Captain Couch Potato with nothing better to do now than look for ways to Complain and push his outdated life philosophy's on other's. He is now to old for much work so he tries to get outside once in awhile to walk or hassle young ladies but mostly he is confined to his Couch, prescriptions and what ever is on T.V.
Many others here like Punaticbychoice, PaulW, Obie, and Leilaniguy are nothing more than sock puppets, ass kissers and Wanna-be-liked-Followers. Obie, Your all talk with no walk.

Leilaniguy, my apologies if you don't like or agree with many of my opinions. I grew up on the Big Island off grid without a computer, t.v or cell phone, a grass shack would have been nice at times. I continued to raise my older sons on the Big Island with no distractions like t.v, cell phones and computers. If they wanted or needed something to do outside of the house they could tend to the Aina by working the garden, weed eating, hunting, fishing or playing.

The million a year offer towards Hawaiian keiki education is a gross insult at best. To think that the islands many Hawaiian Keiki should give up more of their limited high valued lands, resources, history, traditions and ways of life for LESS than $7.50 cents a keiki a year is a bad bad joke. The TMT project and development on Mauna Kea will cost the Hawaiian Keiki so much more than $7.50 or less a year can ever make up. jmo

TomK, you can think and say what you want about me due to my job of choice today, that's exercising one of your rights.
Just so you know, I quit selling various types of insurance years ago because it made me feel like a devil in clothing. I have always enjoyed the simplicity of mowing and working outside on or around golf courses. The game of golf has been great to my kids and i thus far in life. It helps me teach them how to take turns with others, how hard work creates better luck, how to stay humble and competitive, it Helps give them a code of polite conduct known as etiquette, how to appreciate the moment their in, how to stay mentally and physically flexible in life and much much more.

It's funny how many of you can continue to rip on Gypsy and his opinions with nothing said by our forum moderator. I can only hope my bashing of some of you in return get's an equal way of treatment.

[kalakoa]

Hawaiians or Kanaka rarely have much to say ... less likely to have or want the technology like computers, T.V's, cell phones and internet.

That doesn't make it right for them to deny these technologies to others.

To think that the islands many Hawaiian Keiki should give up more of their limited high valued lands, resources, history, traditions and ways of life

Nobody is forcing this upon them.

you can think and say what you want about me due to my job of choice today

I think "ironic", because any given golf course was built on limited high-value lands, erasing history while consuming resources. Land that was once considered "sacred" to a people. Land that is now differently "sacred" to different people with new traditions and ways of life.

The world does not stop simply because some people don't want to adapt.

[Guest]

Kalakoa, you may be right sir.

The lands on top of Mauna Kea are still very sacred to the hundreds of thousands of Hawaiian people living in today's times. The remaining Hawaiians may not want to erase their history just yet, or have their resources consumed or give up their sacred lands on their Piko of Mauna Kea. Especially, to the different oppressors or people with their new traditions and ways of life without the Hawaiians voice heard and a fight or disagreement from them. Maybe they are not ready for this land to be taken or traded from them for the equivalence of a bottle of alcohol to the selected few Hawaiians a year. jmo