More from Tulsi: Net neutrality to be repealed

[TomK]

Having added my name to the petition, I've now found I am part of "Team Tulsi". That's not what I signed up for. I've unsubscribed from the mailer but that doesn't mean they haven't retained my email address. I'm hoping they'll honor my decision. We'll see.

[TomK]

Glinda wrote:

"And, hopefully, that includes whatever Tulsi and her kind might do with a petition that has an abundance of signatures on it."

What's the link to the actual petition? I'm interested to see how many have signed up for it.

[Old Croc]

Obama wanted Net Neutrality so the U.S. segments of the Internet could be placed under Federal Government (read Hillary) control, being regulated as a utility. So the question is whether Internet regulations protect or infringe freedom of speech. The dilemma is one of trust, and neither an overbearing government nor monopolistic Internet companies are worthy of that trust.

[HereOnThePrimalEdge]

the Internet could be placed under Federal Government (read Hillary) control

If the internet is considered a utility, like electricity, exactly how does a president exert control over it? How would the president affect the consumer as much or more than corporate throttling, link blocking, etc.?

With power over utilities, how has the president interfered with HELCO recently?

“Facts fall from the poetic observer as ripe seeds.” -Henry Thoreau

[glinda]

The way I hear it whenever someone plays the "Hillary" card it's best to just ignore them. It's all infowars conspiracy theory gibberish and besides what's with the large type? Are we being yelled at? It sure feels like it.

To support anything other than net neutrality (imo) is pretty much verging on insane. The only reason such a thing as the current change that's being contemplated makes sense is from a corporate profit motivated position. Or, I suppose, a governmental controlling of information kind of thing. But baring all the conspiracy theories and sticking with profit, who besides the actual corporations involved would support such a thing? As it is they (the ISPs) are making a whole lot of money already. Look at your bills. So, I would really love to hear someone articulate a rational reason why anyone would support the proposed FCC changes. Without all the large type and alt-right BS of course, but seriously why would anyone support the FCC in this way?

[rainyjim]

I could see the argument that government oversight in telling your business how to function was overreaching. If a business wants to provide a service (internet) and limit its usefulness by not allowing certain searches (for competitors maybe) or slower speeds for streaming certain content (Netflix maybe) then isn't that a business decision? Isn't the market supposed to sort that out - not the government? If consumer demand wanted an internet service without the aforementioned restrictions (or others) then a ISP that would choose to provide such a service could provide them (a preferential service) thereby gaining the customers of ISP's that chose to provide an inferior service.

That is capitalism I believe. I'm not endorsing the proposed FCC changes, but I do believe the above is a logical rationale for why our current system and the proposed Ganges to its framework is within the moral and ethical bounds of our nation's ethos.

[glinda]

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Originally posted by rainyjim

That is capitalism I believe...

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I think you missed the part where the net is more a utility than a luxury.. i.e. should be overseen and available to all in a similar way as all other utilities. Unless of course I misunderstand and you are suggesting that Helco should have the right to have tiered services. That we all should pay separate surcharges if we want to use our power for a hot tub verses a stove. For a heater verses air conditioning. During the day, or during the night.

[leilanidude]

Helco should have the right to have tiered services. That we all should pay separate surcharges if we want to use our power for a hot tub verses a stove. For a heater verses air conditioning. During the day, or during the night.
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Smart meters already do that. However in most localities that allow them, the consumer has multiple provider companies to choose from. Capitalism (competition)runs the market and that has kept the power prices quite low.

[punaticbychoice]

glinda @ 15:03:58-
The internet IS a utility-it is an essential part of our lives, and must be regulated
for the common good,as the FCC is required to do, per the legislation that created it.
HE/HELCO may already have billing options for users.

[TomK]

Can anyone tell me where the petition has been made public so we can all confirm "[it] has an abundance of signatures on it."?

Thanks.