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Washing your hands frequently may be more effective than getting a flu shot at Safeway.
https://www.sciencemag.org/news/2017/09/...often-fail
https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/20...131015.htm
Improving your immune system by not smoking, not drinking too much alcohol, eat a healthy diet of fruits and vegetables, minimize stress, exercise and keep the weight off. That’s the ticket to a healthier life.
In regards to the subject of this thread, school immunizations, my kids had all the required vaccinations.
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Washing your hands frequently... Improving your immune system by not smoking, not drinking too much alcohol, eat a healthy diet of fruits and vegetables, minimize stress, exercise and keep the weight off. That’s the ticket...
And don't grow old, or get one of them pre-existing conditions, or any other pulmonary disorder
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It may be that viruses, like most all microbes, are beneficial. The viruses we hear about, the ones that have been studied because they are associated with disorders, may well be in the minority. Yet viruses are most often talked about in terms of invaders, high jackers, etc.
We have “landing ports” on our cells for viruses. The idea that viral transfer is a way to distribute useful dna much faster among a population than natural selection sounds pretty silly in the current gestalt, but something similar may turn out as the paradigm in the future. Or not. 
Indeed, my understanding of much of genetic engineering is that the virus (dna splice) is introduced via the landing port on the cell (injected, so to speak, into the viral carrier which mimics the old school modules that landed on the moon ). RNA adds a whole nother level to the intracasies but the end result may be the same.
Nevertheless, I enjoy the “I never got vaccinated and never got the flu” vs “I have not gotten the flu since I got vaccinated”.
Stupid Truth, always resisting Simplicity...
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So just trying to bring this back to the OP's original post... and combining it with the hijacking that followed (that I am also guilty of)...
Why are kids allowed to attend public school if the parents refuse to vaccinate them? I don't understand "religious exemption". If one wants their kids to attend a religious school, then then send them to one. I do understand not vaccinating a kid if they are legitimately medically unable to receive a vaccination, but I don't understand all these other ethereal/mythological explanations against protecting children from deadly diseases. If you want your kid to attend free public school (and free lunches if you are eligible) then allow them to get the free shots that will prevent them from possibly dying.
If you don't want to immunize your kids you probably should be homeschooling them anyways, lest they learn the evil ways of "science" and how smallpox was wiped off the Earth.
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Washing your hands frequently may be more effective than getting a flu shot at Safeway.
Improving your immune system by not smoking, not drinking too much alcohol, eat a healthy diet of fruits and vegetables, minimize stress, exercise and keep the weight off. That’s the ticket to a healthier life.
I'm just curious if Tom has any reply to the above especially after he posted this:
I respect the way you moderate this forum, but in this case, I think you are wrong. You can respect someone's opinion but when they post nonsense then others should be allowed to point this out. I don't like Paul's method of doing this, it's very confrontational, but he has a point and sometimes you need to step things up a little when someone is posting nonsense advice. And when they misrepresent what others have posted or what they think, a hearty and fact-filled response is warranted, even if it may offend snowflakes.
We are living in an era where lies and misinformation are becoming commonplace and acceptable. Please don't let that happen here.
Seems if it's not to Tom's liking it is nonsense.
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EW - my question about having a major in science was aimed at understanding exactly what that means when someone claims such a thing. As I suspected, it means very little (thanks rainyjim) unless the major involves a detailed and intensive course in one or two areas of science (e.g., physics and chemistry). Even then, it does not mean you understand the scientific method. It's when you get into the post-graduate regime that you really understand what it takes to be a good scientist.
As for posting nonsense, something you also ask about, the annual 'flu vaccination has saved thousands of lives. Now, if you really want to claim that eating a healthy diet will protect you as much as the vaccination, or, as you imply, give you better protection, then you might want to follow the scientific method and show that it's a statement that has evidence to support it and let everyone know about those studies.
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I thought you would be able to figure this out Tom:
The blue italicized post are quotes of other people. People who provided links to back up the statements.
That's why I was wondering what you thought of it. If I had posted I knew immediately what you would think of it. (nonsense, hogwash, quackery)
You seem to be directing and reflecting everything to me as if it came out of my mouth. Maybe I believe some of these statements are true because they might have proof they are but I still didn't post them.
Here's another that I DIDN'T post.
According to the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC), an estimated 80,000 Americans died of influenza and its complications during the 2017-18 season.
This is the highest death toll from the flu in at least 4 decades.
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You are 550% more likely to get a respiratory infection if you receive the flu vaccine
“A study published in the journal Clinical Infectious Diseases actually found that not only did the inactivated influenza vaccine not provide additional protection against the flu virus, but it also left recipients lacking in “temporary non-specific immunity that protected against other respiratory viruses”.
https://academic.oup.com/cid/article/54/12/1778/455098
https://www.vaccines.news/2018-10-23-you...ccine.html
“A bombshell new scientific study published in the Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences (PNAS) finds that people who receive flu shots emit 630% more flu virus particles into the air, compared to non-vaccinated individuals. In effect, this finding documents evidence that flu vaccines spread the flu, and that so-called “herd immunity” is a medical hoax because “the herd” is actually transformed into carriers and spreaders of influenza.”
http://www.pnas.org/content/115/5/1081
People who had a 2008 flu shot experienced a 250% increase in influenza infections in subsequent years.
“A medical study conducted at the Ohio State University Wexner Medical Center found that women who received flu vaccines had a weakened immune system response in subsequent years.
Lisa Christian, PhD, the lead researcher on the study, concluded, “Growing evidence shows that those who received a flu shot in the prior year have lower antibody responses in the current year.”
https://www.vaccines.news/2017-10-17-bom...unned.html
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But I did and here are a number of google links including the one i quoted
flu deaths 2017
flu deaths 2017
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A bombshell...
I think the word bombshell is way over used, and almost always by some article that relies on hyper, verging on made up, and taken out of context info that is intended to support a pre defined point of view rather than impart real information. That is more intended to take advantage of peoples gullibilities than actually inform them.
The post by SBH above is a good example of what I referring to. Where he posts a link to Vaccines News at vaccines.news which is listed by mediabiasfactcheck.com as
Sources in the Conspiracy-Pseudoscience category may publish unverifiable information that is not always supported by evidence. These sources may be untrustworthy for credible/verifiable information, therefore fact checking and further investigation is recommended on a per article basis when obtaining information from these sources.
https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/?s=vaccines.news
And still SBH posts here as if this is a reliable source of information..
Unfortunately this grand experiment of all our freedoms doesn't come with a guide on how to filter out the noise and actually get to the goods. Especially in a matter as important as our health. Hopefully, over time, folks that might be swayed by this silly stuff will learn to be more discerning in their daily surfing on the net..
One can hope.. right?
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