HPP BIZ: Part the second

[EightFingers]

This reminds me of the game show, “To Tell the Truth”.

Will the REAL Obie please stand up!

Puna: Our roosters crow first

[Stillwater]

Wow! Mermaid52 the District 5 board rep is giving a property owner in the HPP community a tongue lashing she must feel powerful! How could Obie Harass her if she hasn’t met him? Comical

[Old Croc]

I've lost my Cast of Players program, so someone please correct errors in this:
The individual behind the posting Obie is alleged to be Leilani Crelly.
Mr. Obermann is alleged to be a straw man Obie, whether he knows it or not. This is the person TomK knows.
Note: I have no position on this. Just trying to sort it out.

[kalakoa]

someone please correct errors in this

Clearly a far better use of people's time than, say, running the subdivision.

[leo]

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Originally posted by Old Croc

I've lost my Cast of Players program, so someone please correct errors in this:
The individual behind the posting Obie is alleged to be Leilani Crelly.
Mr. Obermann is alleged to be a straw man Obie, whether he knows it or not. This is the person TomK knows.
Note: I have no position on this. Just trying to sort it out.

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Good job sorting it out Old Croc. That's my conclusion and I have a position on this after attending board meetings and seeing the crap that's gone on this past year. I support directors who are trying to do the right thing. From my observations at meetings, D5 and D7 are those directors and they're being trashed by these former directors. Why? And why are the only two legit directors being left out of all HPP business? Creeley the general manager and Larry Kawaauhu have committed a hostile takeover of all HPP business. The former treasurer has been giving false information on FB about the costs of a forensic audit. Pay no attention. No reason to lie unless they're hiding something. We need a forensic audit it's the only way we'll know the truth. HPP's never had one so it's time any ways.

[TomK]

Old croc:

"The individual behind the posting Obie is alleged to be Leilani Crelly. Mr. Obermann is alleged to be a straw man Obie, whether he knows it or not. This is the person TomK knows."

Yes, I know the Obie who posts here (not well, but I know and have met him and in real life, he is well aware of the posts here and what he and others have posted). In fact, we had planned to meet for a beer not too long ago but I had to go off-island to care for Pam, so had to cancel it. I hope to see him again soon.

He is not Leilani Crelly. I really hope others don't start claiming I am making stuff up because that really isn't my style nor do I believe I have a history of doing so.

[leo]

TomK: Yes, you're entitled to your opinions. They may also include the Earth is flat, we never landed on the moon and unicorns exist, and would point out the absurdity of those opinions anyway. I'm not so convinced you're as entitled to your own made-up facts.

I really hope others don't start claiming I am making stuff up because that really isn't my style nor do I believe I have a history of doing so.

Really? Yet others do according to you?

Maybe you can facilitate a meeting between Mermaid and Obermann? I believe she posted that she'd like to meet him.

[TomK]

"Really? Yet others do according to you?"

I think you should re-read my post and actually think about what I wrote. You can post all the conspiracy theories you want, but I don't think you have the same right to post made-up "facts". In either case, it's proper and a right that people can respond, criticize or even make fun of them.

"Maybe you can facilitate a meeting between Mermaid and Obermann? I believe she posted that she'd like to meet him."

Why should I do that? That is up to Mermaid and Obie. If both Obie and Mermaid were to email me and ask me to set something up, I would probably try to do so, but I don't think it's up to me to initiate it.

[Obie]

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Originally posted by mermaid53

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Originally posted by Obie

Following the antics of the HPP board was a hobby until I became a property owner.
Since I now live in HPP part time I can see 1st hand what goes on.When chip sealing started I drove on a new chip sealed road and saw 1st hand that people were trying to destroy the road by spinning their tires and speeding.
Who does that ?

Thanks for pointing out to leo that he is loony. Mermaid53 is the one who outed me as a female married to a director of HPP.

Maybe leo is really mermaid53 ?

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Thanks Obie. You just confirmed you're using the Obermanns as your facade. That was helpful information. Do the Obermann's read your posts? If so I would hope they would be disturbed.

If I ever get to meet Mr Obermann, I will ask him why AS A HOBBY he's shadowed and harassed me for 3 yrs + when I've never met him. BTW, that's a disturbed individual that does these things AS A HOBBY. If the real Mr obermann didn't own in HPP all these years until recently, why would he, an elderly gentleman living in Kapoho have such animosity towards me, and have an agenda to support Craig Crelly and his boards? The timeline aligns to his involvement on the board. You were also on the board for a short time. Was it Mr Obermann's hobby to go out of his way to disparage and discredit people who live in HPP? I would like to ask him these questions.

BTW, LOTS of HPP people know who you really are. People who know you personally, people who've worked with you on committees, people you've lashed out at at meetings unprovoked, people who've observed you over the years perpetuating your propaganda. (Maybe Leo's one of them?) You're memorable in a negative way at meetings.

It's obvious who you are as your agenda is clear at these meetings. Same personality same agenda here. It's not to promote the best interests of HPP. You attack the same people over and over who are adverse to your HPP political agenda and in protection of your spouse. You outed yourself at HPP meetings.

Let's be clear, YOU outed me first on PT. Would the real Mr Obermann stoop to this low level? According to TomK and others, they say that Mr Obermann is a nice man. That doesn't jive with the Obie who posts on PT and on FB. You also went below the belt and accused me on PT of threatening a former board member's life, someone I got along with very well. He was bullied and threatened by people on your team.

So what doesn't add up is why an elderly gentleman I've never met, be so hostile towards me with an agenda to discredit and attack me? The only thing that adds up is it's a person who knows me well. I've never met Mr Obermann.

I only know one person that has this level of hostility towards me. And as Leo has figured out, you have a dog in the fight now, so your antics have amped up here and people have told me you are doing the same on FB. You are attacking me on FB too. This lawsuit is a serious matter. I am watching your posts closely for the lawsuit. Mr Obermann is now a lot owner in HPP and I hope he knows what he's getting dragged into.

So I'm not off the mark on this one. I can't wait to meet the REAL Mr. Obermann. I have no doubt he will be a nice person with no political agenda and no animosity towards me.

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This post should serve as proof that an obviously delusional person should not serve as a board member of HPPOA.
Mayeline should resign and save everyone a lot of money.

I am the person TomK described.

I can't even imagine how this person came to all of these conclusions about me but she probably needs some kind of professional help.

My last name is Obermann hence the Obie username which is what all of my friends call me.

I don't know why anyone thinks I should meet Mayeline/mermaid53.
I have no desire to meet her.
It kind of ticks me off that she calls me an elderly gentleman when we are only 6 years apart in age.

[leo]

I think you should re-read my post and actually think about what I wrote. You can post all the conspiracy theories you want, but I don't think you have the same right to post made-up "facts". In either case, it's proper and a right that people can respond, criticize or even make fun of them.

That's pretty arrogant I must say Tom.
Accusing me of conspiracy theories, and you don't have your own?
YOU "don't think I have the same right to post made up facts", as WHO?
YOU?
WOW.
Good night.