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COVID-19 confirmed in Hawaii: 607+ cases 16 deaths
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https://www.staradvertiser.com/2020/03/0...reen-says/

"A Hawaii resident who traveled on the Grand Princess cruise ship and returned to Oahu has tested poistive for the coronavirus, the state’s first case of the disease.

Gov. David Ige and state health officials made the announcement this afternoon."
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https://www.hawaiinewsnow.com/2020/03/04...-response/
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Summary given at press conference. Individual was on Grand Princess cruse Feb 11-21st which visited Mexico. Individual left the cruise before it returned to San Francisco and flew from Mexico to Oahu, sought medical care, test was submitted yesterday, positive result today.

Ige - can't ban cruise ships, everyone should take responsibility for their own health
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#2
In the meantime more cruise ships are coming to Hawaii. Might as well expect to get sick and plan accordingly.
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#3
more cruise ships are coming to Hawaii.

It’s almost as if our public officials are so addicted to tourism, it’s to the detriment of Hawaii’s citizens.
"I'm at that stage in life where I stay out of discussions. Even if you say 1+1=5, you're right - have fun." - Keanu Reeves
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#4
Might as well expect to get sick and plan accordingly.

From an elderly perspective that whole line of reasoning is just stupid. I mean, come on, if you follow that logic all people over 60 might as well "get their affairs in order"
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#5
can't ban cruise ships

"Don't want to" is not the same thing as "can't".

that whole line of reasoning is just stupid

"Realistic" is not the same thing as "stupid".

to the detriment of Hawaii’s citizens

Not just "citizens" but also "tourists" -- with any luck, "elected officials" too.
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#6
I can't imagine cruises being an enjoyable experience for much longer never knowing when and if they can disembark or if they are getting a lethal illness to take home to the grandparents in a germ enhancing environment. Or how about being stuck and quarantined outside a country similar to the ship off of Japan? Who the heck is going to buy a pricey ticket for that possibility?
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#7
First Hawaiian Bank statement today after the announcement of COVID-19 in Hawaii:

Preparing for Coronavirus (COVID-19)

This afternoon, the State of Hawaii confirmed its first case of Coronavirus (COVID-19) in the islands. We want you to know that at First Hawaiian Bank, our primary concern is the health and safety of our customers, employees and the communities we serve. We are closely monitoring the potential impact on our community.

All branches and facilities continue to remain operational and we have taken proactive measures to help ensure our teams continue to serve your banking needs. Quick and convenient banking is also available through our many digital services including online and mobile banking for remote deposits, making transfers, paying bills and viewing account balances.
"I'm at that stage in life where I stay out of discussions. Even if you say 1+1=5, you're right - have fun." - Keanu Reeves
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#8
ban cruise ships lol... get real kooks! use common sense... more peeps come here via air daily, faster, and from farther (more sick) places,...
at least a ship can be held up for 2 weeks w/ food etc... try keeping a jet in the air for 2 weeks lol...
aloha

ps... Every year in the U.S., on average: 5% to 20% of the population gets the flu, More than 200,000 people are hospitalized from flu complications, and; The flu causes about 12,000 to 56,000 deaths each year (of all ages, not just old farts)...


Measles in no longer 'extinct' in the USA... it was extinct 20 yrs ago... in 1980 it killed 2.5 million per yr! from 1980-2015, every year it went down,... except recently, ALL and ONLY because of the facebook conspiracy believing pickleheaded retards...
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retards in Clark County Washington... the lowest herd immunity Ive ever heard of in USA... thus
https://www.npr.org/sections/health-shot...t-outbreak
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Herd_immunity
debunked last millennium... try read if your KID is NOT vaccinated, measles usually kills kids under 5 yrs old......
https://www.mayoclinichealthsystem.org/h...k-debunked





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save our indigenous and endemic Hawaiian Plants... learn about them, grow them, and plant them on your property, ....instead of all that invasive non-native garbage I see in most yards... aloha
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save our indigenous and endemic Hawaiian Plants... learn about them, grow them, and plant them on your property, ....instead of all that invasive non-native garbage I see in most yards... aloha
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#9
https://youtu.be/HCgISG1D57Y
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#10
What a lot of people don't know about cruise ships is that the crew are constantly moved around. It's not unusual for many of them to get off the ship mid-way through the cruise itinerary and flown to where another ship is and it could be on the other side of the globe. Also the crew are densely housed with several crewmembers bunking together. And they work different shifts so the bunks are constantly being used. They don't get their own bunk- after they start work somebody else is off duty and sleeping in the same bunk. They are housed below the water line and have little access to fresh air or sun. This generally represents 1/3 of the people on the boat. So in many ways it is much worse than an airplane and they have high exposure to international travel.

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