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Wuhan Corona Virus Coming Soon? (Now Here)
From: https://www.hawaiinewsnow.com/2020/03/10...aiis-ports

‘Floating germ factories’: Anxiety within cruise ship industry puts spotlight on Hawaii’s ports

More government officials want to stop cruise ships from entering Hawaii’s ports as the global coronavirus outbreak continues to spread.

Hawaii Lt. Gov. Josh Green and state Rep. Gene Ward are asking for a 60-day ship stoppage...


Interesting how Hawaii Lt. Gov. Josh Green and state Rep. Gene Ward are "asking" the feds for a 60-day cruise ship stoppage. If I was Josh I would just shut the ports down and tell Trump guys to go play another round of golf.
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Thanks islandlvng, I'm stocked up on garlic.
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https://www.facebook.com/watch/live/?v=907094363046329&ref=watch_permalink

Hawaii is going to start using their ILI (influenza like illnesses) network to test for COVID-19 in patients that have symptoms but test negative for influenza. This will start to randomly sample widely across the islands to find community spread (good news!) Still only 22 samples tested - 2 positives, 20 negatives. Just 250 tests possible per week at the State lab so not everyone who is negative for flu will be tested (not good news)

Also private labs are going to help test, although it can take longer as samples have to go to the mainland. Kaiser testing also coming online in about 2 weeks.

ETA: Random thought - there are about 350 babies born each week in Hawaii so the % of the population tested will actually go down with only 250 tests being performed per week...
http://hhdw.org/health-reports-data/data...irth-data/
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Originally posted by Punatic007

Thanks islandlvng, I'm stocked up on garlic.



The irony is that the garlic at the local farmer's markets comes from China.

Most of the stuff from the big box stores comes from USA. But you have to check label to be sure.
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Only organic from the health food store on the garlic and especially the ginger, a root known to help cleanse the soil of contaminants by absorbing them.
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I tend to just scan and don't read everything on these "epidemic" threads, and many of the others too, little doubt I do miss a lot.
There's too much B.S., extraneous non essential information, personal predilections, personal ignorance and so on that seem to fill much of them.
But, that's the way of PunaWeb, take it or leave it.

I have hinted [or more strongly] at the need to prepare yourself, as best you can, for what's coming.
That's the best hope for everyone.
There is no cure for it yet.
An effective vaccine is probably at least 2 years away before it's available for us common folk.
The chances are you will acquire an immunity before a vaccine becomes available.
You and your actions are your best methods for dealing with it successfully.

This is not one of the 3 major plague [Black Death] waves that killed possibly as much as 50% of the European population during that portion occurring in the middle ages.
And, it's totally different.
It is not a flu epidemic like what followed WWI.
Again, it is totally different.
Learning about them is useful for dealing with the epidemic situation not the disease.

Knowledge has grown immensely since both of those occurred.
You do have better options in how to deal with things like this.
You do not have to just sit there shuddering and shaking, waiting for it to steam-roll you.

This is turning out to be not as deadly as it looked to be in the beginning.
I still hold that the true mortality rate of this epidemic does not include existing cases, only resolved cases, deaths and survivors.
Existing cases do not figure into the true death rate.
The epidemic is too new.

There are still 49k unresolved cases.
Now that it has moved out of China and is again growing, the mortality rate is growing again too.
It has been down to at least 4 to 5% or so, it now looks to be growing again, now in the 6 to 7% range with the number of new cases again growing.
Chances are those that died at first were the weakest with complicating factors.
That's probably why the mortality rate was near 50% at first.
As those were thinned out the % of survivors began to climb.
All that if the Chinese numbers were correct.

As with all diseases, susceptibility runs a gamut of possibilities for everyone.
Older and younger people often have health complications that can effect their outcomes.
After seeing videos of small bodies being zipped two each to a body bags, I still doubt the low death rate for younger people.
Anyway, some will be very susceptible, some will only be moderately susceptible, and some will waltz around never knowing they have or had it.
That's the way it goes.

There are things you can do to optimize your ability to deal with this.
Mostly, limit your exposure and make your body as healthy as you can, and keep it that way.
The greatest risk will be for at least a few months, maybe longer, hopefully less than a year.

Things to keep in mind:
How good are you?
How lucky are you?
Nobody gets out of this alive.



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Was a Democrat until gun control became a knee jerk, then a Republican until the crazies took over, back to being a nonpartisan again.
This time, I can no longer participate in the primary.
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Headline today:

Coronavirus Conference Gets Canceled Because of Coronavirus
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/...oronavirus

Presumably the conference organizers, participants & attendees know more about the transmission of COVID-19 than we do. It’s something to consider.
"I'm at that stage in life where I stay out of discussions. Even if you say 1+1=5, you're right - have fun." - Keanu Reeves
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University of Hawaii COVID-19 economic impact forecast for the islands, with charts and graphs. Summery: a V shaped recovery (relatively rapid recovery) is unlikely.

https://uhero.hawaii.edu/interim-forecas...in-hawaii/
"I'm at that stage in life where I stay out of discussions. Even if you say 1+1=5, you're right - have fun." - Keanu Reeves
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University of Hawaii COVID-19 economic impact forecast for the islands..

As reported by Civil Beat, that forecast is a revision from one published only a few weeks ago.

https://www.civilbeat.org/2020/03/econom...ronavirus/

As such I have to wonder what is it going be when the evolving circumstances forces them (in what, another two weeks?) to revive it again?
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If only we could diversify our economy and not have one that is so susceptible to the whims of others.
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