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UH classes moving online:
University of Hawaii President David Lassner announced all classes will move online after spring break.
This will be effective starting on Monday, March 23.
More changes will also be announced later Thursday.
https://www.khon2.com/coronavirus-2/univ...-concerns/
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If you’re counting on Amazon for COVID-19 supplies - - they told most of their employees to stay home:
The directive applies to all employees whose work requires them to be in an office, store, fulfillment center or in vehicles making deliveries.
https://www.cnbc.com/2020/03/12/amazon-t...fears.html
The scheisse just got real.
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Definition of a real national emergency in modern times: Amazon stops delivering.
ETA: And the pandemic stuff.
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quote:
Originally posted by ironyak
To be fair, having Uncle pay for the test both promotes the public health and boosts the economy. And with the Fed printing money nonstop, it's all free right? 
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-f...SKBN1ZQ19E
no its not free, its wholesale theft.
Helicopter Ben tactic. The top gets socialism protection. the rest of the slaves must fend for themselves.
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From Ryan Finnerty, HPR News:
Representatives from Matson and and the food industry said they do not anticipate any shortages or disruption to the supply of basic food supplies and consumer goods. Toilet paper and hand sanitizer will continue to be rationed by retailers to prevent hoarding.
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Representatives from Matson and and the food industry said they do not anticipate any shortages or disruption to the supply ...
That is, of course, until the dock workers become infected. Then, one has to assume, all bets are off. At least until the National Guard steps in.
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Had a Dr.'s appointment yesterday.
Gave serious consideration to cancelling it.
But, needed to get the checkup over with.
I also needed to do some shopping [horror of horrors].
We were beginning to run short on a few things.
So I hit Wally's World, HD and Safeway, then skedaddled for home and refuge, skipping Target.
I was already stressing from dealing with the people.
It was time to go.
Normally, I rarely go into town.
My neurotic aversion to dealing directly with people makes me very happy to isolate myself.
My normal social contact is only with M'Lady.
My greatest dangers in this are her social contacts, and what she brings home.
I have been caught a few times by that.
But, I do have to breakout every so often.
As an infrequent visitor to town, I noticed a few things.
All the talk here and elsewhere about panic buying looks to be greatly exaggerated.
Yeah, a few items have empty shelves.
But, it isn't all that much worse than normally when new shipments are about to arrive.
It looked kinda normal for a remote location, better than Ft. Wainwright, Akiachak, Unalaska, Barrow, Kotzebue and elsewhere.
Wally's:
You could spot them right off.
They were everywhere in the store, ... tourists, probably cruise passengers.
Pallets and carts of boxes of items were stacked thru out the aisles waiting to be put on the shelves.
Safeway
Only one person wearing a mask.
An Asian woman using it most effectively.
It was strung across her mouth with her nose sticking out above it, a pretty black one too, probably cloth.
HD
Store seemed to be pretty much normal, but parking was easy to find.
Numbers seemed to be a bit lower than normal.
Everywhere
I was using and handling carts that had been used by a large number of people before me.
That was true of almost everything else in the stores.
I shuddered, several times, but did nothing more in response.
Impossible to not have people passing very close to you often.
I found myself rubbing my face: nose, mouth, eyes, etc very often, probably mostly a nervous reaction.
I never cleaned my hands before getting home.
Why, I had been using them in my normal manner.
I laughed at the Carlin link.
But, that is me.
I expect to spend the next 5 days to 2 weeks being very paranoid, watching myself for COVID-19, or other, symptoms, probably a waste of time and energy, ... hopefully.
Even while the world is falling apart my portion seems to still be pretty close to normal.
Most of the changes are in me.
ADDON:
In response to i-y's post just below:
If the economy does seriously tank, what will happen to SoSec?
Will it be ... restricted? ... eliminated? ... or...?
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Was a Democrat until gun control became a knee jerk, then a Republican until the crazies took over, back to being a nonpartisan again.
This time, I can no longer participate in the primary.
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kander - The top gets socialism protection. the rest of the slaves must fend for themselves.
Free marketers call central banks socialist, while socialists call them fictional capital. They are creatures unto themselves, but when they are pumping 1.5 trillion into the markets, and talking about dropping to zero interest rates, it remains to be seen if they're going to be enough this time.
https://thehill.com/policy/finance/48727...oronavirus
At least until the National Guard steps in.
And the Individual Ready Reserve... lots of pieces in motion.
https://twitter.com/codeofvets/status/12...2562591744
https://www.staradvertiser.com/2020/03/1...on-hawaii/
"The University of Hawaii Economic Research Organization issued a report this week that predicted that the coronavirus scare would cause visitor arrivals to decline by more than 7% this year, and more than 6,000 jobs in Hawaii will be wiped out before the economy begins to bounce back.
By comparison, the Sept. 11, 2001, attacks caused visitor arrivals to decline by 9.3 percent in 2001, and the onset of the Great Recession caused a 10.4 percent decline in visitor arrivals in 2008.
But University of Hawaii Professor of Economics Carl Bonham said this morning it is now clear the UHERO’s projections earlier this week were too optimistic.
“How long this goes on, really, no one knows. The uncertainty is just enormous,” Bonham told the committee. With stock markets tanking today, “it looks like job losses of 1.5%, it looks like a recession for Hawaii, it looks like a recession for the U.S.”"
But University of Hawaii Professor of Economics Carl Bonham said this morning it is now clear the UHERO’s projections earlier this week were too optimistic.
Yeah that -10% number was just a little to fuzzy for me...
I think we are talking a well over 50% drop in tourism dollars. Minimally
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I also needed to do some shopping (horror of horrors)
Given all the coughs, the old people hugging and kissing, corona cruisers wandering about - truly the stuff of nightmares these days. Buy 4x of the usuals and bug out till next month.
Glad to hear you survived - probably that tempering of your immune system!
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