Prepping for a virus situation

[terracore]

In many countries pharmacists are able to diagnose and prescribe drugs for many issues. That is something they should consider implementing here not just for this crisis but for the long-term doctor shortage that continues to get worse. At the very minimum they should allow pharmacists to refill expired prescriptions for people who cannot get in to see a doctor for the next 3 months.

[kalianna]

Part of me wants to go to the Hilo Farmer's Market on Wed. and kiss everybody there. The logic is that if I'm going to need a hospital bed, I might as well need it sooner rather than later, while there's still beds available. I'd probably survive and then I wouldn't have to hide for weeks (months?) I could deliver food (if there is any) to those who are isolated and visit with housebound aunties and uncles. Probably more productive than staying home and posting fantasies on Punatalk, eh? :-)

[Guest]

Placebos..

I've always been impressed by the statistics surrounded placebos. And yeah I can do a search for placebos and paste any number of articles supporting my opinions, and clinically gathered facts about them, and still I am sure someone with a different opinion can do the same to support their's. Regardless, the fascinating thing is how clearly they suggest the power of our own mind as a partner in our efforts to control certain conditions.

What I find the most interesting is the wall built by those who say something is not possible. I am sure that the use of placebos, that do get results in many cases, is equal to the lack of results that having a closed mind gets. As such, what I think is most important is that we all remain open to finding answers that we may have discounted otherwise.

[Rob Tucker]

hokuili, People here on Punaweb who make a habit of denigrating others tend to be removed.

Assume the best and ask questions.

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[Guest]

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Originally posted by kalianna

Part of me wants to go to the Hilo Farmer's Market on Wed. and kiss everybody there. The logic is that if I'm going to need a hospital bed, I might as well need it sooner rather than later, while there's still beds available. I'd probably survive and then I wouldn't have to hide for weeks (months?) I could deliver food (if there is any) to those who are isolated and visit with housebound aunties and uncles. Probably more productive than staying home and posting fantasies on Punatalk, eh? :-)

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Sorry to spoil the party but...

From: https://www.caixinglobal.com/2020-02-26/...20415.html

14% of Recovered Covid-19 Patients in Guangdong Tested Positive Again

That's an article behind a paywall..

Here's the explanation..

From: https://www.forbes.com/sites/brucelee/20...492b555c0f

Can You Get Coronavirus Twice? How Long Are You Immune After COVID-19?

A sequel to a movie that you didn’t want to see in the first place is one thing, like Ghost Rider 2 after Ghost Rider. A sequel to having a COVID-19 infection would be something completely different.

You may think that the one “positive” of testing positive for the COVID-19 causing coronavirus (SARS-CoV2) and surviving would be that you won’t get infected by that virus again. At least not during this pandemic. Ah, but is this assumption really true? Will you indeed be immune to the SARS-CoV2 after you’ve recovered from a COVID-19 infection? Some reports out of Japan and China seem to suggest otherwise.

For example, Daniel Leussink and Rocky Swift reported for Reuters about a female tour bus guide in Japan who tested positive for the virus after recovering from a COVID-19 infection. Here is a UNTV news report on the case:

Does this case actually prove that re-infection with the virus is possible? Or was this just a mistake in the testing? Or did the person have a particularly weak immune system so that she couldn’t generate immunity? After all, one case can be an accident, an aberration, an anomaly, an aardvark in a sea of anemone.

Then there’s the February 14 article from Caixin, a Beijing, China-based media group, that was entitled “14% of Recovered Covid-19 Patients in Guangdong Tested Positive Again.” Umm, 14% would seem more like an “ooop” than an “ooops.” This CGTN news warned of such reinfection possibilities...

Read more at the link above..

As to spoiling 'the party'

When I was young, before most vaccines, we went to measles parties, or mumps parties.. so as to be intentionally infected as children, who have a lot easier time with those diseases than adults...

[1voyager1]

https://www.mckinsey.com/~/media/McKinse...16-v3.ashx

This PDF is aimed at businesses, but has much of use to individuals.

[TomK]

"When I was young, before most vaccines, we went to measles parties, or mumps parties.. so as to be intentionally infected as children, who have a lot easier time with those diseases than adults..."

When and where I grew up we had no such parties. Going to such events seems a great way to increase the number of asymptomatic carriers who pass COVID-19 onto their parents and grandparents.

[Rob Tucker]

If we older folks are going to be staying home a lot it might be a good idea to stock up at Home Depot and take on some home maintenance or improvement projects to keep busy.

[randomq]

FYI, Walmart is now opening at 6am instead of 5am, to allow stockers time to work.

[PaulW]

That's good news, it means they have something to stock!