Wuhan Corona Virus Coming Soon? (Now Here)

[PaulW]

Tell it to the WHO, I'm sure they'd love to hear from you.

[HereOnThePrimalEdge]

If we, here in Hawaii, get to the full on in the wild outbreak... I suspect more people will be wearing masks

Contest: who will spot the first sign that reads:

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No Shirt
No Shoes
No Mask
No Service
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[PaulW]

USA on track to overtake Italy in Corona cases tomorrow. And China the day after that.

Stay home.

[kander]

Epidemiologist Neil Ferguson who wrote the Imperial College London coronavirus model which was massively shared on social media, including by the New York Times, is now backing down his death toll claims. Ferguson’s death rate model helped shape our temporary shelter down policies.

Originally, Ferguson said that 2.2 million will perish in the United States as a result of coronavirus. He predicted half a million deaths in the U.K. alone. This was if there was no action taken.

But now, Ferguson says the data was skewed. He says that many more people probably have or have had coronavirus, which means his original results are off.

He now says that hospitals in the U.K. will be fine. He’s predicting 20,000 deaths there, or “far fewer.”

“This is a remarkable turn from Neil Ferguson, who led the [Imperial College] authors who warned of 500,000 UK deaths — and who has now himself tested positive for #COVID,” stated former New York Times reporter Alex Berenson.

“He now says both that the U.K. should have enough ICU beds and that the coronavirus will probably kill under 20,000 people in the U.K. — more than ½ of whom would have died by the end of the year in any case [because] they were so old and sick,” he wrote.

Berenson says that fear-mongering media is refusing to cover the story because it doesn’t fit into their apocalyptic coverage.


Berenson continued: “Essentially, what has happened is that estimates of the viruses transmissibility have increased — which implies that many more people have already gotten it than we realize — which in turn implies it is less dangerous.”

“Ferguson now predicts that the epidemic in the U.K. will peak and subside within ‘two to three weeks’ — last week’s paper said 18+ months of quarantine would be necessary,” the former reporter highlighted.

“One last point here: Ferguson gives the lockdown credit, which is *interesting* — the UK only began [its] lockdown 2 days ago, and the theory is that lockdowns take 2 weeks or more to work,” stressed Berenson. “Not surprisingly, this testimony has received no attention in the US — I found it only in UK papers. Team Apocalypse is not interested.”

She’s right.

As we approach a new day where the tide is turning, many people who bring up incoming economic woes are being shamed. Any site that draws the conclusion that at some point, we need to turn back on the economy, is being lashed out at as someone willing to kill off a portion of our society so that we don’t suffer financial losses.

It seems the winds of change are happening now. We saw it with Zika, Swine Flu, and many other fear-based media campaigns. Its likely that Coronavirus won’t end much differently.


Italy still has a death rate lower per million than the worse flu season in the past 20 years in the US
Stop the panic. its not as bad as they promised.

[PaulW]

USA likely to overtake both Italy and China in Corona cases by the end of the day.

[knieft]

kander:
As we approach a new day where the tide is turning, many people who bring up incoming economic woes are being shamed. Any site that draws the conclusion that at some point, we need to turn back on the economy, is being lashed out at as someone willing to kill off a portion of our society so that we don’t suffer financial losses.

I won't shame you. But I am in a very tiny minority.

Death rate per million is the statistic that will tell the story when all is said and done. Even if no one wants to consider it now.

Cheers,
Kirt

[HereOnThePrimalEdge]

As we approach a new day where the tide is turning

I read something during a previous crisis, it might have been the 2008 economic meltdown. It was something to the effect that you can't blame or give credit to a strategy aimed at a disaster that never happened.

After all is said and done with COVID-19, people will find reasons and statistics which prove we overreacted, as well as other reasons and statistics that indicate we should have done more. We'll never know for certain, right now all we can do is wash our hands (repeatedly) and hope most of us can argue about it in the future.

[randomq]

Here's the situation in New Orleans, where it's 84f and 51% humidity:

"The situation in and around New Orleans is particularly acute, with the city reporting 827 confirmed cases as of Wednesday night, more than the total number of cases in all except 15 states. Hospitals are overwhelmed, and critical safety gear is running low."

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.nytimes...0p19G=3248

[terracore]

"it's 84f and 51% humidity"

Is there any scientific evidence that the climate has anything to do with viral spread? I had read (many sources) that influenza is "seasonal" because of summer school closures because kids have little immunity to the flu.

[Punatic007]

There have been a few studies circulating about climate affecting spread of the virus. I don't think they are conclusive, but what is? This is a novel CV. https://www.umaryland.edu/news/archived-...id-19-.php