Wuhan Corona Virus Coming Soon? (Now Here)

[randomq]

So much bad advice given by government agencies big and small. As if the public's faith wasn't already shaken by all the corruption and partisan bickering. Then the majority of people acting in self-interest, going into work sick or ignoring the stay-at-home order. So disappointing.

[randomq]

You can make your own mask, a few layers of t-shirt or kitchen towel is better than nothing. Even if the protection to you is minimal, it keeps you from unknowingly spreading the virus if you're asymptomatic. If we all wore something from the start it would have been so much less widespread.

[kander]

If you think this is disappointing, Just wait until the finger pointing gets into full swing and world war breaks out..

[Rob Tucker]

Kander,

Please. Let's not sensationalize this...

Assume the best and ask questions.

Punaweb moderator

[kander]

Sorry Rob,
I Dont mean to sensationalize. Just reflecting on what has happened in the past to determine what happens forward. Ive been pretty accurate on this except the prediction on the actual fatality rate. I was wrong, it seems that covid-19 is no less dangerous than the actual flu.
They can use happy words like stay at home time, shelter in place, in conjunction with travel restrictions, border closings, forced closing of businesses. Its still martial law. Expecting to see the border with Canada also close very soon.
The federal reserve is all in trying to stabilize a market that is in free fall. I dont think even at a trillion dollars a day they can print themselves out of it. We are looking point blank double barrel, at greatest depression in history before our eyes.

History has an uncanny pattern of repetition, Culture wars, Trade wars, Depression, world wars.

Im not happy in the slightest of the direction this is going. Im quite concerned. So If it sounds like sensationalism I apologize.

[ironyak]

Not to gang up, but I'm with kander on this one. Banning food & medicine exports, propaganda blame games, nationalistic fervor in full swing, the US government directing companies' activities (ala Corporatism/Fascism via Mussolini), the merging of the Fed and Treasury to allow for unlimited spending on all assets classes (inflating your way out of bond debt formally held mostly by China), we're following the 1929 -> 1930s -> 1939/41 playbook with a few new tricks.

If any of the above info isn't familiar and recognizable, probably best to crack open a history book now - He who Knows Only His Own Generation Remains Always a Child.

https://finance.yahoo.com/news/feds-cure...52347.html
"In just these past few weeks, the Fed has cut rates by 150 basis points to near zero and run through its entire 2008 crisis handbook. That wasn’t enough to calm markets, though — so the central bank also announced $1 trillion a day in repurchase agreements and unlimited quantitative easing, which includes a hard-to-understand $625 billion of bond buying a week going forward. At this rate, the Fed will own two-thirds of the Treasury market in a year.
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To put it bluntly, the Fed isn’t allowed to do any of this. The central bank is only allowed to purchase or lend against securities that have government guarantee.
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In essence, the Treasury, not the Fed, is buying all these securities and backstopping of loans; the Fed is acting as banker and providing financing.
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In other words, the federal government is nationalizing large swaths of the financial markets. The Fed is providing the money to do it.
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This scheme essentially merges the Fed and Treasury into one organization. So, meet your new Fed chairman, Donald J. Trump."

[Durian Fiend]

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Originally posted by kander

Sorry Rob,
I Dont mean to sensationalize. Just reflecting on what has happened in the past to determine what happens forward. Ive been pretty accurate on this except the prediction on the actual fatality rate. I was wrong, it seems that covid-19 is no less dangerous than the actual flu.

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.1% mortality vs 1% is what the experts say. This virus is 10 times more lethal than flu.

[randomq]

Durian Fiend, the 1% assumes you can get treatment in a non-overloaded hospital with available ICUs. 5% (1 in 20) that catch it will need hospitalization, and 2% (1 in 50) will go on a ventilator, of which half will survive. But if the ICU is full, or doctors ill/overloaded, the death rate could rise as high as the hospitalization rate.

It is tragic people are not taking this more seriously. 1 in 20 is too close to Russian roulette for me. My SO is an "essential worker" without proper PPE though, so I guess those will eventually be our odds.

[ironyak]

Oh, forgot to mention the boogaloo, Civil War 2. Sounds sensationalized? Talk to Gov Cuomo of New York.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article...n-war.html

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/world/news/article.cfm?c_id=2&objectid=12320689

(plenty of other sources if you think it's just some fringe news organizations)

https://www.cnn.com/videos/politics/2020...ot-vpx.cnn
Cuomo: Quarantine would be federal declaration of war on states

[knieft]

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Originally posted by ironyak
(plenty of other sources if you think it's just some fringe news

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And this is because of 19, or the reaction to it?

Cheers,
Kirt