Wuhan Corona Virus Coming Soon? (Now Here)

[ironyak]

America isn't just a failing state, it is a failed experiment

"In March, some, like Dan Patrick, Lieutenant Governor of Texas, went into amateur eugenicist mode, opting for despair over government action." ("there are more important things than living" - Dan Patrick Apr 20)

We do have a fine history of eugenics that has never really left. - maybe it's just a bit of nostalgia.
https://indyweek.com/news/american-eugen...-part-1-3/

And as for the blame game, there is no game more American to play. Who is it this time? Indians? Negros? Abolitionists? Irish? Women? Polish? The Rich? Chinese? Germans? Commies? Blacks (them again?) The Poor? Hippies? Yuppies? Arabs? Japanese? Liberals? Conservatives? Millennials? Mexicans? Boomers? Chinese? Got to be someone else right?

We're all about those Rights, but have a hard time with those Responsibilities...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wOcY3XlzPzs

[kalakoa]

as for the blame game

I blame whoever urinated in my cornflakes.

[Guest]

I agree Durian, as someone that owns and carries an oximeter for over ten years now, I am amazed at that line. If I hit 75%, which I have done a number of times, it's a quick dash to the ER. I can't imagine 50%.

As to comparing things with Iceland, they are a different kind of society. Already well versed in being cooperative and, seemingly, not afflicted with the same tendencies Americans exhibit, their Covid19 response is exemplary. Though what makes it so isn't that they didn't do a full on lock down, it is that they have been doing full on testing, including random, and contact tracing, from the get go. And, of course, being an island nation they had the added benefit of being able to more effectively close their borders.

From The Icelandic government's website:

https://www.government.is/news/article/2...n-Iceland/

Icelandic authorities are taking strict measures to limit the spread of the COVID-19 disease in the country. The heaviest focus has been on testing, contact tracing and quarantine of individuals considered to be likely carriers. Furthermore, very strict measures have been in place for several weeks to protect the groups considered most vulnerable from infection as well as measures to minimize the risk of infection at medical establishments.

From the WaPo

https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/202...-possible/

Iceland has tested more of its population for coronavirus than anywhere else. Here's what it learned

..anyone in Iceland who wants to be tested for coronavirus can be. They do not need to have recently traveled abroad or have come into contact with anyone diagnosed with the virus. They don’t even need to show any symptoms.

The initiative has drawn thousands of people from the general population in for testing. Between swabs carried out free by deCODE and those conducted at Icelandic hospitals for those showing symptoms, about 19,500 people — more than 5 percent of the country’s total population — had been tested for the virus as of Wednesday. More than 1,200 cases had been confirmed, and two people had died. More than 7,800 others were in quarantine, and more than half of those who had been diagnosed with the virus were already in quarantine at the time of their diagnosis, according to official government data.

Iceland's data, in a similar way as others, is shared here:

https://www.covid.is/data

And a more in-depth discussion of Iceland's efforts can be read here:

https://cleantechnica.com/2020/03/21/ice...-symptoms/

[HereOnThePrimalEdge]

And as for the blame game... (et al)

Good list ironyak.
The Hawaii based TV show 'Lost' took the concept, simplified and summarized it into those people the plane crash survivors described as The Others.

Gotta admit, it's a time saver.

[terracore]

Interestingly, in 1964 they pitched a dramatic TV series called "Lost on Gilligan's Island" but the TV execs thought it was too dark for audiences in 1960, so it was retooled into a slapstick comedy called "Gilligan's Island".

The reboot of the original series shortened the name to "Lost" because they didn't want people to think it was a Gilligan's Island reboot. Here's the trailer to the original series:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X13riysl9ng

[HereOnThePrimalEdge]

terracore,
Speaking of shows similar to Lost, have you ever seen The New People?

Plane crash on a Pacific island.
Young, beautiful & handsome survivors.

It didn’t last long, but probably was too groovy for its time, 1969.
https://youtu.be/JDdsrvGZJ88

[kander]

Hot mic in press conference.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i5LfxArGLEU

[Durian Fiend]

Some good news with states making progress on limiting covid19, with Hawaii being in the best category.


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42m
Finally, 8 states have already fallen more than *50%* from their peaks.

AK
HI
ID
LA
MT
VT
WA
WY

44m
8 more states have fallen 25-50% from their peaks:

FL
ME
MO
NY
OK
OR
TN
SC

46m
8 states have fallen by 10-25% from their peaks. This starts to count as real progress. These are:

AL
CO
MI
NV
PA
TX
WV
WI

[terracore]

quote:

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Originally posted by HereOnThePrimalEdge

terracore,
Speaking of shows similar to Lost, have you ever seen The New People?

Plane crash on a Pacific island.
Young, beautiful & handsome survivors.

It didn’t last long, but probably was too groovy for its time, 1969.
https://youtu.be/JDdsrvGZJ88

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No but thanks for sharing. Looks like a cross between Lost and Lord of the Flies.

[terracore]

https://news.trust.org/item/20200421225557-nvm1g

CDC chief warns 2nd COVID-19 wave may be worse, arriving with flu season

April 21 (Reuters) - A second wave of the coronavirus is expected to hit the United States next winter and could strike much harder than the first because it would likely arrive at the start of influenza season, the director of the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention warned on Tuesday.

"There's a possibility that the assault of the virus on our nation next winter will actually be even more difficult than the one we just went through," CDC Director Robert Redfield told the Washington Post in an interview.

As the current outbreak continues to taper off, as shown by a recent decline in hospitalization rates and other indicators, authorities need to prepare for a probable resurgence in the months ahead.

"We're going to have the flu epidemic and the coronavirus epidemic at the same time," he said, and the combination would put even greater strain on the nation's healthcare system than the first outbreak.

The virus, which causes a highly contagious and potentially fatal respiratory illness dubbed COVID-19, emerged late last year in central China. The first known U.S. infection, a travel-related case, was diagnosed on Jan. 20 in Washington state near Seattle.

Since then, nearly 810,000 people have tested positive in the United States, and more than 45,000 have died from the disease.

Redfield and other public health authorities credit drastic stay-at-home orders and widespread business and school closings across the country for slowing the spread of infections. But the restrictions have also stifled American commerce while throwing at least 22 million people out of work over the past four weeks.

Even as the lockdown is gradually eased, Redfield stressed the importance of individuals continuing to practice social distancing among one another.

At the same time, he said, public health authorities must vastly ramp up a testing system to identify those who are infected and to locate their close personal interactions through contact tracing.

Asked about the recent flurry of street protests of stay-at-home orders and calls for states to be "liberated" from such restrictions - as President Donald Trump has advocated on Twitter - Redfield told the Post: "It's not helpful."

Building a nationwide contact tracing network, key to preventing newly diagnosed cases from growing into large outbreaks, poses a major challenge because it is so labor intensive, requiring a workforce that by some estimates would require as many as 300,000 personnel.

Redfield said the CDC is discussing with state officials the possibility of enlisting and training workers from the U.S. Census Bureau, and volunteers from Peace Corps and AmeriCorps, to create a new contact tracing workforce. (Reporting by Steve Gorman in Los Angeles; editing by Bill Tarrant and Lincoln Feast.)