Composting toilet & porta potty rental

[Chas]

Thanks!

[Obie]

Thanks!

I have used this kit also. You can find it at Walmart and Ace. I bought it from Amazon..


First Alert WT1 Drinking Water Test Kit

[Ccat]

Everybody in Puna needs an outdoor bathroom.  

https://www.sunrisespecialty.com/diy-composting-toilet  

Excellent how to!

Use up Ohia (from rapid Ohia death) (and other tree shavings) for compost.

Puna has ALOT of that to get rid of!

Composting should destroy the tree pathogens.

(You could make a 2 container toilet: One bin for mostly solids which gets composted and one bin for exclusively urine which is old-style liquid ammonia garden fertilizer. )

Why not a good, composting, sanitary toilet that anybody can make?

All the best

[Bigislandtinyfootprint]

Ever figure this out? We use a BIOGAS unit. Converts waste into fertilizer and gas for cooking /shower.

Got info if you’d like. I also do consultant work for sustainability.

There are others out there. Search and you’ll
Find em..

[Ccat]

Ever figure this out? We use a BIOGAS unit. Converts waste into fertilizer and gas for cooking /shower.

Got info if you’d like. I also do consultant work for sustainability.

There are others out there. Search and you’ll
Find em..

This does look really interesting.  It makes totally good (science) sense, especially for those of us who want or need to live off grid for whatever reason.


thanks for sharing.

ccat

[dobanion]

These are pretty slick:


HomeBiogas - Household Biogas Digester System

[punikahakaiferret]

Resurrecting this thread because it's high time this sort of thing gets attention again.

Compost toilets and also greywater systems that aren't just pipedreams with allusions of being able to get them permitted, but it never happens.

See this, read this, and then see what happens when you actually try to install a CT.

https://www.capitol.hawaii.gov/sessions/...racticable.

Has *anyone* managed to actually get a CT or greywater system approved? And why should we have to get approval for a CT? Bueller? Bueller?

Hey, Hawaii, stop requiring unnecessary large, expensive septic tanks, and start allowing real, obtainable, affordable alternative waste solutions, already!!!  *banging head against wall*

[garymatt]

I searched. This seemed like the thread to post in.
After reading and I admit a lot more reading may be required. I find the 2017 law stating Cesspools must be ~converted/replaced to Septic Tanks by 2050 - as it stands at the time of this writing, opens more questions for me.
If you have already converted to a Septic Tank system, where is this proof being documented? I can guess, but I would like to see it stated boldly. Is a permit required to get it done? Maybe somebody here knows someone who has gone through the process. How is it documented? Is it a Public Record like many property facts already are?
It would be horrible in my opinion, to have it done and not be able to prove it bureaucratically when selling a house or otherwise confronted with the need to prove it.
Pointing out one is much superior to the other is false. My reading indicates that a PROPERLY done cesspool is very much equal to the waste product leakage of a septic tank. Often the fact that drainage is just as much a part of a septic tank system as it is with a cesspool is not mentioned in discussions. Very little I have read actually states how little the differences are between the two if both are reputably done. I believe test results on property would absolutely prove or disprove it.
What are the testing result requirements that prove a septic tank is within specs and can that same criteria be applied to a cesspool location to prove that a $30-$50K conversion is not necessary?
Are there such 'Drainage Specs'? There really should be. It would be great to have a recognized certificate of authorization stating a system is within published requirements.
These are rhetorical questions where qualified answers may not be available. It still seems worth asking here because Punaweb members in my opinion have a depth of experience.

[punikahakaiferret]

GaryMatt:

100% agree! Sounds to me like much legislation here is just a bunch of smoke and mirrors, and woebetide ye who piss off the wrong person, somewhere with the county, then suddenly you are Public Enemy No. 1

It is beyond ridiculous. People just want to live. Live simply. "Do their own thing." Have a place to call their own; "tend their own garden" (thanks, Voltaire), but the state/county dangles a carrot (SSHB 2583) saying compost toilets are legal, but then yank the rug out (aka inspect, fine, and want to prosecute) when their own wording says they are allowed, but nooooooo.

Personally, I find both septic and cesspool systems to be abhorrent and disgusting. Compost toilets of the type that separate liquids and solids are the way to go! (Think I just made a joke, there, "way to GO".)

But sadly too many are too fecophobic to be able to conceive of that.

Better to just flush your sh*t and p*ss away in fresh drinking water, than turn it into fertilizer and usable soil to actually GROW FOOD?

I weep for the future. Popeye's and McDonald's for all, apparently.

[MarkP]

So I went ahead and had a septic tank and leach field installed but still use my bucket/sawdust toilet whenever possible(except I use grass clippings primarily). I keep a compost heap active uphill from one of my breadfruit trees and it seems to keep the trees happy. I employ enough clean cover materials that the waste is never exposed and I don't worry about the temperature in the pile. I don't dig into or manipulate the pile for anything since it is already where it is doing good, adjacent to the trees. Years go by before anybody would touch the materials that were formerly humanure.

I know E. coli outbreaks are sometimes linked to human waste in farm fields but when used in this fashion I believe that the chain of infection is effectively broken.

Buckets and grass clippings are cheap. The septic tank and leach field were expensive but now I have the ultimate in plausible deniability should the county come sniffing around, plus somewhere for sissies to go if they don't like to use the bucket.

I get 15' of rain a year so I happily use fresh water to flush. It would be going out the overflow otherwise.