HPP Special BOD Meeting Tuesday, May 5th at 6pm

[PaulW]

By the looks of Jade's post she read it at the HPP website, the forum I would guess. So it's hearsay.

[JerryCarr]

My understanding is that there is a statutory limit of 10% fee increases per year for associations in Hawaii chartered like HPPOA. I have heard this figure mentioned in several different contexts. Some projections were presented at a recent meeting, but I don't recall how far forward the 10% increases would have to extend to reach an equilibrium of bond service and adequate funds for unpaved road maintenance. It was not ad infinitum. I do recall Suzanne, the HPPOA General Manager, telling the membership that there would be a few very difficult years while the income catches up. Perhaps Jeff could clarify this for us.

I would like to add my thanks to those expressed for Jeff's participation here. I know you are a busy man, and I truly appreciate the efforts you are making for this community. It is like a breath of fresh air to get clarification on these issues.

Cheers,
Jerry

[jade]

Yes. I did say in my post that I read it on the HPP website. I copied and pasted it. There was more but I was trying to find out what was fact and what was not true. I am just trying to figure out what's really going on.

Jade

[Punatick]

Jerry.....Budget for 2009 & 2010 is being worked on right now. We hope to have a draft by Wed. night.

[allensylves]

In one of the notices with the road maintenance fee bill (?) in the last few years, it was stated that fees would increase by 10%/year for some period of time (that I do not remember).

Allen
Baton Rouge, LA & HPP

[JerryCarr]

Jeff, my calendar and the HPP website calendar show the next Board meeting as on 15 April, which would be a week from Wednesday, or a week from tomorrow. Is there a special meeting in the meantime?

Jade, the material you copied and pasted was from the HPP Pro-Board. As I understand it, that bulletin board is not an official organ of HPPOA. There is a link to it on the HPPOA official website, which might make one think it is the official news outlet. While it is moderated, anyone who registers can post just about any conjecture they want. Unless something is labeled as an official announcement, I would take it as opinion or one person's point of view. IMHO, the official HPP website should have a more rapidly updated "Official News" section. Meanwhile, Jeff has been generously helping us out on his own time.

Cheers,
Jerry

[Punatick]

Ok .....between tax time and running a business I messed up the date....lol. Please forgive me, as the BOD meeting is indeed next Wed 4/15.

Jerry.....you are right on the 10%. FYI The BOD votes on fees and increases every year.

Aloha,

Jeff

[Menehune]

Aloha!

(If my normal "posting" seems more disoriented than usual - I am SUFFERING with the flu - all empathy is greatly appreciated.)

First - Punatick (I like it - something that's annoying and gets under the skin!) - Jeff, Thank You - For stepping out and exposing yourself here on PunaWeb to the trials and tribulations of an internet forum and the confusion associated with HPP disinformation and Paving.

I have been following and staying away from expounding on some of the posts - but "jade's" post about something she read on the "unofficial" HPP website and the responses has dragged me forth!

Because they did not post on PunaWeb I will not quote the HPP forum post - but I will quote "jade":
Posted - 04/06/2009 : 11:27:00
Thank you Youser. I had read this:

"When, I went in to the office to pay the road fee, I was told by the woman working there, that the Board of Director did not follow the Bond Plan. Yes, I was also told their was no more funds for purchasing material to further maintenance the roads. I ask her what was being done about the Property Owners, that are not paying their road fees, her reply, we are putting a lien on their property, and if, they are two years behind, then they will start foreclosure on the owner. Now, their continues to be a 15% increase in our road fees, for the next 15 years, but for the next 5 years, no material will be purchased for our roads and now I am reading we are in default on the Bond Payment.

From the HPP website. It is so wonderful that Jeff is letting us know what is really going on."


I WAS in the HPP office paying my road fees - when I heard MOST of the above conversation - It was from someone in the office who would know what was gong on. (I will email - Jeff - with more particulars for his dissemination.) After hearing this - I addressed the person and asked if I had heard correctly. I will now paraphrase.

A) The Board had passed a budget that "practically" eliminated road material for unpaved roads for the next FIVE years.
B) The figures (I barely remember) for road materials normally averages $300,000.00 and the "new" budget only allowed $25,000.00.
C) That the "maintenance" division would do the best they could with the limited resources and would probably need to "scrape" excess material from the sides of roads to fill in "pot-holes", etc..
D) That the "Bond" payments put to much strain on our budget and will continue to do so for the foreseeable future - affecting the "overall" maintenance of our roads.
E) That this person (who lives in the park) didn't care if their road was maintained because the worse it was the less people drove down it.

I empathize with JerryCarr about the complacency of HPP residents - BUT IMHO it comes from gossip, innuendo and a history of bad management - from both the board and the office. It is an UPHILL struggle that the current board and office inherited. It needs to be noted that some of the current board members and current office management have been in place - AWHILE!
I believe that INFORMATION is the KEY - timely - accurate - unbiassed!

Cough! Nyquil - Nap!




"Each thing I do I rush through so I can do something else" - Cemetery Nights/Stephen Dobyns

[Sean]

Jeff,

Thanks for not going anywhere. I figured I'd throw in my 2 cents worth and let you know that at the meeting I attended I was very impressed by how you ran it. You sat up there and let the thunder roll and didn't take it personally. It's not easy to take the negative and keep on smiling.

For what it's worth I think the process of selecting which roads to be paved could be comunicated a little bit better. As previously mentioned there was a push to take care of the higher maintenance roads first which makes sense, but it also appears that whoever yells the loudest gets their way also...

Anyway, it's really appreciated that you're there. Keep up the good work!

Mahalo,

Sean

[Seeb]

They posted the agenda for the 15th on the hppoa site i see 2 things,
traffic burden fees and
regional town center grant
what are they about?