03-31-2011, 11:21 AM
Spunky,
Maybe you should read what is actually written before criticizing.
My suggestion was that Hawaii county make use of all the people who are on the CD notification system to be on the outlook for a lost person, not that county manpower be used to go door to door. When I lived in a mountainous rural area where city hunters tended to get lost, shoot each other, or sometimes do both, when we heard helicopter overflights we assumed it was search and rescue, and would never think of complaining. We also got phone notification from the sheriff's office to keep an eye out for the lost hunters; once we actually found the guy who had been shot and wounded by his buddy, who then panicked and ran away, in our back pasture (which was well posted NO HUNTING because we had livestock). So my suggesting is not absurd, and is in fact used in many rural places as a way to augment manpower when doing search and rescue. On open territory a helicopter may be more efficient, but when there is thick albizia canopy they cannot see much on the ground, just try looking at HPP on Google earth sometime, you can't even see some of the houses through the canopy, much less a person on foot.
No one was complaining about the fact that a search and rescue was disturbing us, once I knew that's what it was I acknowledged that fact right away. For you to accuse people of knowingly complaining about search and rescue flights is dishonest, no one here did that once we knew what the real deal was.
If we were not so constantly bombarded with tour and green harvest helicopters here in HPP we would probably assume that low flying helicopters are search and rescue, but virtually all of the time we are having our peace and quiet destroyed it is either Green Harvest, or tour companies out to make a buck off tourists at the expense of residents of Puna. You do not have to be a dope grower to hate Green Harvest, all you have to be is a night worker trying to sleep, an ill person trying to recover, the parent who just got their baby to go to sleep, owner of a noise sensitive dog, or someone suffering from military action caused PTSD, to hate the overflights. That Orange Chopper came on the heels of several days of constant overflights that started up as soon as lava returned to Pu'u O'o, it was not plainly marked as being Hawaii County Fire Department, and there was no announcement on the radio that there was a search and rescue going on. Maybe you are a chopper expert, but not everyone is, and considering that the vast majority of the overflights are not search and rescue, but Green Harvest or tour companies, it is unreasonable to expect people being overflown to know on the rare occasion the overflight is actually serving a public good.
Carol
Maybe you should read what is actually written before criticizing.
My suggestion was that Hawaii county make use of all the people who are on the CD notification system to be on the outlook for a lost person, not that county manpower be used to go door to door. When I lived in a mountainous rural area where city hunters tended to get lost, shoot each other, or sometimes do both, when we heard helicopter overflights we assumed it was search and rescue, and would never think of complaining. We also got phone notification from the sheriff's office to keep an eye out for the lost hunters; once we actually found the guy who had been shot and wounded by his buddy, who then panicked and ran away, in our back pasture (which was well posted NO HUNTING because we had livestock). So my suggesting is not absurd, and is in fact used in many rural places as a way to augment manpower when doing search and rescue. On open territory a helicopter may be more efficient, but when there is thick albizia canopy they cannot see much on the ground, just try looking at HPP on Google earth sometime, you can't even see some of the houses through the canopy, much less a person on foot.
No one was complaining about the fact that a search and rescue was disturbing us, once I knew that's what it was I acknowledged that fact right away. For you to accuse people of knowingly complaining about search and rescue flights is dishonest, no one here did that once we knew what the real deal was.
If we were not so constantly bombarded with tour and green harvest helicopters here in HPP we would probably assume that low flying helicopters are search and rescue, but virtually all of the time we are having our peace and quiet destroyed it is either Green Harvest, or tour companies out to make a buck off tourists at the expense of residents of Puna. You do not have to be a dope grower to hate Green Harvest, all you have to be is a night worker trying to sleep, an ill person trying to recover, the parent who just got their baby to go to sleep, owner of a noise sensitive dog, or someone suffering from military action caused PTSD, to hate the overflights. That Orange Chopper came on the heels of several days of constant overflights that started up as soon as lava returned to Pu'u O'o, it was not plainly marked as being Hawaii County Fire Department, and there was no announcement on the radio that there was a search and rescue going on. Maybe you are a chopper expert, but not everyone is, and considering that the vast majority of the overflights are not search and rescue, but Green Harvest or tour companies, it is unreasonable to expect people being overflown to know on the rare occasion the overflight is actually serving a public good.
Carol
Carol
Every time you feel yourself getting pulled into other people's nonsense, repeat these words: Not my circus, not my monkeys.
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Every time you feel yourself getting pulled into other people's nonsense, repeat these words: Not my circus, not my monkeys.
Polish Proverb