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Sen Ruderman, where is the proof
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What it comes down to is there shouldn't have to be proof that these pesticides and GMO are bad for us. There should be proof that they ARE NOT bad for us. When you go to the doctor and are prescribed a medication, you take a compound that has gone through not only animal studies, but three rounds of clinical trials IN HUMANS. Double blind, placebo controlled trials. Pesticides, herbicides, and GMO only go through minor animal testing. Minor animal testing that is done by the manufacturer. There are no human trials.

And now these pesticides that were once thought to be relatively safe are being found to cause all sorts of developmental neurotoxicity issues.

Taking this even further, we all metabolize compounds differently. For example, there is a medication called azathioprine that is used for people with organ transplants as well as people with afflictions like Crohn's disease. Some people can take the standard dose of azathioprine no problem. Others need a higher dose. Others need a lower dose. And some people? Even a small dose can kill them. Scientists have figured out why. Because we all are different. Depending on your genetic makeup, how you metabolize azathioprine is different and now they've developed a test (thiopurine metabolite testing) to determine what your dosage should be OR if you shouldn't take it at all.

They're now finding that people have different genetic polymophisms that affect how they metabloze pesticides as well (studies linked at the bottom that showcase this). Sure, YOU might be able to eat a peach covered in pesticide no problem. But what about that person who has the genetic polymorphism that makes them highly susceptible to organophosphate pesticide toxicity? What about them? Or what about the pregnant woman carrying a fetus who has a genetic polymorphism that makes it highly susceptible at a time when its neural connections are being formed?

Where is the proof this stuff is bad? WHERE IS THE PROOF IT IS SAFE? SAFE FOR EVERYONE EVEN IF THEY HAVE CERTAIN, LESS COMMON GENETIC MAKEUPS?

THERE IS NONE BECAUSE THE SCIENTIFIC RESEARCH HAS NOT BEEN DONE.

http://www.nature.com/nature/journal/v39...284a0.html
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/9703197
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Sen Ruderman, where is the proof - by Richard Ha - 01-15-2014, 07:37 AM
RE: Sen Ruderman, where is the proof - by snorkle - 01-15-2014, 08:24 AM
RE: Sen Ruderman, where is the proof - by hikatz - 01-15-2014, 09:03 AM
RE: Sen Ruderman, where is the proof - by Guest - 01-15-2014, 09:12 AM
RE: Sen Ruderman, where is the proof - by hikatz - 01-15-2014, 09:39 AM
RE: Sen Ruderman, where is the proof - by Guest - 01-15-2014, 10:26 AM
RE: Sen Ruderman, where is the proof - by Obie - 01-15-2014, 11:46 AM
RE: Sen Ruderman, where is the proof - by Obie - 01-15-2014, 11:55 AM
RE: Sen Ruderman, where is the proof - by Permie - 01-15-2014, 12:02 PM
RE: Sen Ruderman, where is the proof - by Permie - 01-15-2014, 12:26 PM
RE: Sen Ruderman, where is the proof - by Permie - 01-15-2014, 12:41 PM
RE: Sen Ruderman, where is the proof - by Permie - 01-15-2014, 01:11 PM
RE: Sen Ruderman, where is the proof - by Permie - 01-15-2014, 01:20 PM
RE: Sen Ruderman, where is the proof - by Russell - 01-15-2014, 01:21 PM
RE: Sen Ruderman, where is the proof - by Permie - 01-15-2014, 01:37 PM
RE: Sen Ruderman, where is the proof - by Permie - 01-15-2014, 01:48 PM
RE: Sen Ruderman, where is the proof - by snorkle - 01-15-2014, 01:51 PM
RE: Sen Ruderman, where is the proof - by Obie - 01-15-2014, 03:42 PM
RE: Sen Ruderman, where is the proof - by Obie - 01-15-2014, 04:18 PM
RE: Sen Ruderman, where is the proof - by davidr - 01-15-2014, 05:14 PM
RE: Sen Ruderman, where is the proof - by ourdoc - 01-15-2014, 06:06 PM
RE: Sen Ruderman, where is the proof - by Permie - 01-15-2014, 11:30 PM
RE: Sen Ruderman, where is the proof - by Guest - 01-15-2014, 11:42 PM
RE: Sen Ruderman, where is the proof - by Guest - 01-15-2014, 11:46 PM
RE: Sen Ruderman, where is the proof - by Permie - 01-16-2014, 02:08 AM
RE: Sen Ruderman, where is the proof - by ericlp - 01-16-2014, 02:20 AM
RE: Sen Ruderman, where is the proof - by OpenD - 01-16-2014, 02:21 AM
RE: Sen Ruderman, where is the proof - by OpenD - 01-16-2014, 02:25 AM
RE: Sen Ruderman, where is the proof - by Permie - 01-16-2014, 02:47 AM
RE: Sen Ruderman, where is the proof - by OpenD - 01-16-2014, 04:29 AM
RE: Sen Ruderman, where is the proof - by Guest - 01-16-2014, 05:21 AM
RE: Sen Ruderman, where is the proof - by snorkle - 01-16-2014, 06:35 AM
RE: Sen Ruderman, where is the proof - by OpenD - 01-16-2014, 06:53 AM
RE: Sen Ruderman, where is the proof - by Permie - 01-16-2014, 09:53 AM
RE: Sen Ruderman, where is the proof - by Permie - 01-16-2014, 10:19 AM
RE: Sen Ruderman, where is the proof - by Obie - 01-16-2014, 11:10 AM
RE: Sen Ruderman, where is the proof - by Permie - 01-16-2014, 11:32 AM
RE: Sen Ruderman, where is the proof - by steve1 - 01-16-2014, 11:39 AM
RE: Sen Ruderman, where is the proof - by Obie - 01-16-2014, 04:26 PM
RE: Sen Ruderman, where is the proof - by Obie - 01-16-2014, 04:41 PM
RE: Sen Ruderman, where is the proof - by kalakoa - 01-16-2014, 04:54 PM
RE: Sen Ruderman, where is the proof - by Obie - 01-16-2014, 05:00 PM
RE: Sen Ruderman, where is the proof - by Guest - 01-17-2014, 01:38 AM
RE: Sen Ruderman, where is the proof - by OpenD - 01-17-2014, 02:44 AM
RE: Sen Ruderman, where is the proof - by kalakoa - 01-17-2014, 03:27 AM
RE: Sen Ruderman, where is the proof - by Obie - 01-17-2014, 03:47 AM
RE: Sen Ruderman, where is the proof - by snorkle - 01-17-2014, 04:12 AM
RE: Sen Ruderman, where is the proof - by Guest - 01-17-2014, 04:23 AM
RE: Sen Ruderman, where is the proof - by geochem - 01-17-2014, 04:47 AM
RE: Sen Ruderman, where is the proof - by Permie - 01-17-2014, 05:13 AM
RE: Sen Ruderman, where is the proof - by Permie - 01-17-2014, 05:17 AM
RE: Sen Ruderman, where is the proof - by Obie - 01-17-2014, 06:06 AM
RE: Sen Ruderman, where is the proof - by Permie - 01-17-2014, 06:13 AM
RE: Sen Ruderman, where is the proof - by geochem - 01-17-2014, 06:15 AM
RE: Sen Ruderman, where is the proof - by Permie - 01-17-2014, 07:09 AM
RE: Sen Ruderman, where is the proof - by Obie - 01-17-2014, 07:33 AM
RE: Sen Ruderman, where is the proof - by Permie - 01-17-2014, 08:38 AM
RE: Sen Ruderman, where is the proof - by snorkle - 01-17-2014, 09:25 AM
RE: Sen Ruderman, where is the proof - by geochem - 01-17-2014, 09:45 AM
RE: Sen Ruderman, where is the proof - by Permie - 01-17-2014, 10:06 AM
RE: Sen Ruderman, where is the proof - by Obie - 01-17-2014, 10:25 AM
RE: Sen Ruderman, where is the proof - by OpenD - 01-17-2014, 05:10 PM
RE: Sen Ruderman, where is the proof - by Obie - 01-17-2014, 05:22 PM
RE: Sen Ruderman, where is the proof - by OpenD - 01-17-2014, 05:27 PM
RE: Sen Ruderman, where is the proof - by Permie - 01-17-2014, 07:57 PM
RE: Sen Ruderman, where is the proof - by Permie - 01-17-2014, 08:00 PM
RE: Sen Ruderman, where is the proof - by Permie - 01-17-2014, 08:10 PM
RE: Sen Ruderman, where is the proof - by Guest - 01-17-2014, 11:52 PM
RE: Sen Ruderman, where is the proof - by Guest - 01-17-2014, 11:57 PM
RE: Sen Ruderman, where is the proof - by TomK - 01-18-2014, 07:47 PM
RE: Sen Ruderman, where is the proof - by Guest - 01-20-2014, 04:05 AM
RE: Sen Ruderman, where is the proof - by Russell - 01-20-2014, 05:03 PM
RE: Sen Ruderman, where is the proof - by PaulW - 01-20-2014, 05:12 PM
RE: Sen Ruderman, where is the proof - by Obie - 01-20-2014, 05:23 PM
RE: Sen Ruderman, where is the proof - by Obie - 01-20-2014, 05:28 PM
RE: Sen Ruderman, where is the proof - by rbrgs - 01-21-2014, 06:26 AM
RE: Sen Ruderman, where is the proof - by robguz - 01-21-2014, 05:19 PM
RE: Sen Ruderman, where is the proof - by Guest - 01-22-2014, 12:24 AM
RE: Sen Ruderman, where is the proof - by rbrgs - 01-22-2014, 05:06 AM
RE: Sen Ruderman, where is the proof - by Russell - 01-22-2014, 05:26 AM
RE: Sen Ruderman, where is the proof - by kalakoa - 01-22-2014, 06:11 AM
RE: Sen Ruderman, where is the proof - by Guest - 01-22-2014, 07:53 AM
RE: Sen Ruderman, where is the proof - by PaulW - 01-22-2014, 11:56 AM
RE: Sen Ruderman, where is the proof - by PaulW - 01-22-2014, 02:45 PM
RE: Sen Ruderman, where is the proof - by PaulW - 01-22-2014, 02:50 PM
RE: Sen Ruderman, where is the proof - by Obie - 01-22-2014, 02:51 PM
RE: Sen Ruderman, where is the proof - by Guest - 01-23-2014, 03:04 AM
RE: Sen Ruderman, where is the proof - by Guest - 01-23-2014, 03:19 AM
RE: Sen Ruderman, where is the proof - by Guest - 01-23-2014, 07:06 AM
RE: Sen Ruderman, where is the proof - by Obie - 01-23-2014, 07:27 AM
RE: Sen Ruderman, where is the proof - by Guest - 01-23-2014, 07:51 AM
RE: Sen Ruderman, where is the proof - by Obie - 01-23-2014, 08:04 AM
RE: Sen Ruderman, where is the proof - by kalakoa - 01-23-2014, 08:21 AM
RE: Sen Ruderman, where is the proof - by DaVinci - 01-23-2014, 09:35 AM
RE: Sen Ruderman, where is the proof - by TomK - 01-23-2014, 06:24 PM
RE: Sen Ruderman, where is the proof - by PaulW - 01-23-2014, 09:08 PM
RE: Sen Ruderman, where is the proof - by PaulW - 01-23-2014, 09:13 PM
RE: Sen Ruderman, where is the proof - by PaulW - 01-23-2014, 09:22 PM
RE: Sen Ruderman, where is the proof - by PaulW - 01-23-2014, 09:44 PM
RE: Sen Ruderman, where is the proof - by Guest - 01-24-2014, 12:18 AM
RE: Sen Ruderman, where is the proof - by Obie - 01-24-2014, 03:25 PM
RE: Sen Ruderman, where is the proof - by PaulW - 01-24-2014, 03:30 PM
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RE: Sen Ruderman, where is the proof - by dldixon - 01-25-2014, 01:28 PM
RE: Sen Ruderman, where is the proof - by Guest - 01-26-2014, 02:26 AM
RE: Sen Ruderman, where is the proof - by PaulW - 01-26-2014, 06:57 AM
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RE: Sen Ruderman, where is the proof - by PaulW - 01-28-2014, 05:16 AM
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RE: Sen Ruderman, where is the proof - by geochem - 01-29-2014, 06:11 AM
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