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SB2274-Sustainable Living
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Originally posted by rainyjim


- am I missing something? Wouldn't the main focus of these "sites" be food production?


I understand the county opposition - due to loss of power/control. But I don't understand (nor actually see any) opposition from anyone else - exception being anti-ruderman people who want to attack ruderman and don't actually care about the bill one way or the other.
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What you are missing is full knowledge of the contents of the Bill. There is a lot of opposition developing as people become more knowledgeable of the Bill. They are not anti Ruderman but very concerned residents who do not want all the different types of occupancies and uses the Bill will allow.

I think most people do not really understand the contents of SB2274. It is 17 pages of disjointed convoluted language. Here is the link to it and I encourage everyone to read it.


http://www.capitol.hawaii.gov/session201...B2274_.HTM


Section 3 covers what uses and occupancies that can be considered in a “Sustainable Living Research Site”. To try and summarize, the following would be allowed in the research site. How many people would like to have some of these as your neighbor?

Geothermal resources exploration and geothermal resources development
Cultivation of crops, crops for bioenergy, orchards, forage and forestry
Animal husbandry and game and fish propagation
Aquaculture
Wind generation – public, private, and commercial use
Biofuel production
Solar energy facilities
Bona fide agricultural services and uses that support the agricultural activities
Wind machines and wind farms
Small-scale meteorological, air quality, noise, and other scientific and environmental data collection
Agricultural parks Agricultural tourism
Agricultural tourism activities including overnight accommodations
Open area recreational facilities
Agricultural-based commercial operations
Retail activities in an enclosed structure
Retail food establishments
Farm dwellings, employee housing, farm buildings
Public institutions
Public & private open area types of recreational uses (day camps, picnic grounds, parks & riding stables)
Buildings and uses including mills, storage and processing facilities, maintenance facilities
Plantation community subdivisions
Construction and operation of wireless communication antennas
Agricultural education programs

As you can see, under this Bill, a huge amount of different uses will be permitted, many of which are not compatible with a neighboring residential community. Do residents of Seaview, Puna Palisades, Leilani Estates, Nanawale Estates, etc. want these in their backyards?

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SB2274-Sustainable Living - by kjlpahoa - 03-16-2014, 06:08 AM
RE: SB2274-Sustainable Living - by kalakoa - 03-16-2014, 07:39 AM
RE: SB2274-Sustainable Living - by rainyjim - 03-16-2014, 07:53 AM
RE: SB2274-Sustainable Living - by kalakoa - 03-16-2014, 09:07 AM
RE: SB2274-Sustainable Living - by kjlpahoa - 03-16-2014, 12:55 PM
RE: SB2274-Sustainable Living - by rainyjim - 03-16-2014, 02:46 PM
RE: SB2274-Sustainable Living - by kalakoa - 03-17-2014, 03:48 AM
RE: SB2274-Sustainable Living - by peteadams - 03-17-2014, 06:48 AM
RE: SB2274-Sustainable Living - by Russell - 03-17-2014, 06:57 AM
RE: SB2274-Sustainable Living - by kalakoa - 03-17-2014, 07:48 AM
RE: SB2274-Sustainable Living - by kjlpahoa - 03-17-2014, 08:51 AM
RE: SB2274-Sustainable Living - by Russell - 03-17-2014, 09:04 AM
RE: SB2274-Sustainable Living - by Chunkster - 03-17-2014, 09:08 AM
RE: SB2274-Sustainable Living - by rainyjim - 03-17-2014, 10:13 AM
RE: SB2274-Sustainable Living - by Russell - 03-17-2014, 10:15 AM
RE: SB2274-Sustainable Living - by kalakoa - 03-17-2014, 10:15 AM
RE: SB2274-Sustainable Living - by rainyjim - 03-17-2014, 10:28 AM
RE: SB2274-Sustainable Living - by kalakoa - 03-17-2014, 10:31 AM
RE: SB2274-Sustainable Living - by kalakoa - 03-17-2014, 11:11 AM
RE: SB2274-Sustainable Living - by Rob Tucker - 03-17-2014, 01:35 PM
RE: SB2274-Sustainable Living - by Guest - 03-18-2014, 08:11 AM
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RE: SB2274-Sustainable Living - by kalakoa - 03-18-2014, 08:34 AM
RE: SB2274-Sustainable Living - by Guest - 03-18-2014, 09:07 AM
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RE: SB2274-Sustainable Living - by rainyjim - 03-18-2014, 03:05 PM
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RE: SB2274-Sustainable Living - by rainyjim - 03-18-2014, 07:56 PM
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RE: SB2274-Sustainable Living - by Guest - 03-25-2014, 05:41 AM
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RE: SB2274-Sustainable Living - by Guest - 03-25-2014, 11:06 AM
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RE: SB2274-Sustainable Living - by kjlpahoa - 03-26-2014, 12:57 AM
RE: SB2274-Sustainable Living - by kjlpahoa - 03-26-2014, 01:12 AM
RE: SB2274-Sustainable Living - by Rob Tucker - 03-26-2014, 01:46 AM
RE: SB2274-Sustainable Living - by kalakoa - 03-26-2014, 03:22 AM
RE: SB2274-Sustainable Living - by Guest - 03-26-2014, 07:17 AM
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RE: SB2274-Sustainable Living - by Rob Tucker - 03-26-2014, 07:35 AM
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RE: SB2274-Sustainable Living - by rainyjim - 03-26-2014, 10:32 AM
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RE: SB2274-Sustainable Living - by kjlpahoa - 04-27-2014, 01:07 PM
RE: SB2274-Sustainable Living - by kalakoa - 04-28-2014, 04:55 AM
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RE: SB2274-Sustainable Living - by Rob Tucker - 05-01-2014, 08:41 AM
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RE: SB2274-Sustainable Living - by Rob Tucker - 05-01-2014, 09:55 AM
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