08-16-2014, 06:24 AM
Below is the post I made just before the T storm from the thread titled: Would it wise for PGV at this time to prepare?
Posted - 08/06/2014 : 10:02:39 Show Profile Reply with Quote
I woke last night at a little after 3 am (a usual occurrence)to a faint but detectable hydrogen - sulfide smell. At this point I had a thought about how totally bad it would be if something happened to PGV as a result of the incoming storm , and wondered what special considerations PGV is taking if any in regards to these approaching storms.
PGV lies on a gradual plane tending upwards from the ocean next to Vacation land, and as a result , the coming storms would have a very easy time coming inland at that little distance (maybe 2 miles + or -)
The havoc that could evolve to an unprepared PGV (NOT SAYING IT IS),
might be considerable ( think above ground well-head plumbing and structures , and possible security equipment fail safes devices) if they had an uncontrolled release of hydrogen - sulfide. Imagine 70+ mph winds with gusts even higher in a blinding rainstorm , with men frantically running around in virtual spacesuits in a haze of toxic gases at night - of course this is seemingly a worst case scenario.
In my opinion, since these storms and the time of their arrival, has been broadcast continually for many days already, their would be no valid excuse to be unprepared, and PGV saying something like, "we never even considered this to be a possibility" would be particularly unacceptable
Another post on same thread:
Posted - 08/06/2014 : 14:54:55 So I spent about some time (45 min) trying to talk with a live person at pgv , after having to deal with recorded messages for that amount of time I did manage to leave a message with administration & possibly the control room, but apparently no one was available to talk with me live. As well, I did talk to one live person at a reference # which I believe was Oromat headquarters - I tried to explain that I was seeking an answer to the question" does pgv have any emergency procedure established for this event - not necessarly an evacution scenario as that seemed unlikely in an all out hurricane.which as of this writing @ 2:50 HST seems unlikely as the eye has disapated at this time.
Perhaps you might have better luck. The tel numbers are:
PGV BEST # 965 6233
PGV 2ND BEST 9658843 given by FD who didn't have a tel# on hand and had to go online to give me this # which didn't work for me other than refer me to the Oromat # below.
Oromat 866 517 1610
THEN tHIS pOST:
Posted - 08/10/2014 : 12:25:11 Show Profile Reply with Quote
As I am sitting here writing these reports, I just learned that ON Thursday night during the storm as many were listening to the radio about island reports, Sherry Bracken and several other broadcast personalities, reported that "PGV" , was having an un-controlled release of TOXIC GASES. In the process of writing this missive, a woman who lives in Lani Puna Gardens (extremely close) was fearing for her life as the sound of the of the uncontrolled venting was louder than the Hurricane.She also reported no sounds of thunder. Fearing for their families they first called 911 and were chastised by the operator for using 911 for what she said was a non emergency. Then , since they knew the PGV plant manager Mike Kalakini, they called his # , and apparently he sounded like he was being woken up - not clear if that was the case, none the less PGV grossly under reported the toxic release as this couple and her familiy were afflicted with nausea, and
sickness.
This PGV true story is ABSOLUTELY UNACCEPTABLE. we must hold their feet to the fire and do whatever we must to get accountability from our elected and non- elected officals , and enlighten Hawaiin Tel as to their negligence in the 911 awareness of the situation.
As well we need to establish the truth of the report that PGV "must have an uncontrolled release of Toxic gases every time their are electrical grid issues (dropped or downed poles or wires).
Addendum: The progression of this thread shows that PGV/ Hawaiian TEL
Need to answer to this event - especially since the story seems to be in the process of - shall we say evolutionary revisionism.
When one adds the Hale interview as corroborative evidence to other story's of people living near PGV,an honest person would conclude that indeed their was a real problem that turned out worse than my original thoughts expressed above in that,evac was impossible.
Also it is quite ingenuous to cast aspersions against people who may also have been in the recent Cinderland production as to the verity of their claims.
Also I talked to my Lifeguard friend and he said that emergency response to PGV at this time was intercepted buy the above reality of
inaccessibility due to fallen trees and wires blocking all access to pgv - is that not also contrary to the official story?
Posted - 08/06/2014 : 10:02:39 Show Profile Reply with Quote
I woke last night at a little after 3 am (a usual occurrence)to a faint but detectable hydrogen - sulfide smell. At this point I had a thought about how totally bad it would be if something happened to PGV as a result of the incoming storm , and wondered what special considerations PGV is taking if any in regards to these approaching storms.
PGV lies on a gradual plane tending upwards from the ocean next to Vacation land, and as a result , the coming storms would have a very easy time coming inland at that little distance (maybe 2 miles + or -)
The havoc that could evolve to an unprepared PGV (NOT SAYING IT IS),
might be considerable ( think above ground well-head plumbing and structures , and possible security equipment fail safes devices) if they had an uncontrolled release of hydrogen - sulfide. Imagine 70+ mph winds with gusts even higher in a blinding rainstorm , with men frantically running around in virtual spacesuits in a haze of toxic gases at night - of course this is seemingly a worst case scenario.
In my opinion, since these storms and the time of their arrival, has been broadcast continually for many days already, their would be no valid excuse to be unprepared, and PGV saying something like, "we never even considered this to be a possibility" would be particularly unacceptable
Another post on same thread:
Posted - 08/06/2014 : 14:54:55 So I spent about some time (45 min) trying to talk with a live person at pgv , after having to deal with recorded messages for that amount of time I did manage to leave a message with administration & possibly the control room, but apparently no one was available to talk with me live. As well, I did talk to one live person at a reference # which I believe was Oromat headquarters - I tried to explain that I was seeking an answer to the question" does pgv have any emergency procedure established for this event - not necessarly an evacution scenario as that seemed unlikely in an all out hurricane.which as of this writing @ 2:50 HST seems unlikely as the eye has disapated at this time.
Perhaps you might have better luck. The tel numbers are:
PGV BEST # 965 6233
PGV 2ND BEST 9658843 given by FD who didn't have a tel# on hand and had to go online to give me this # which didn't work for me other than refer me to the Oromat # below.
Oromat 866 517 1610
THEN tHIS pOST:
Posted - 08/10/2014 : 12:25:11 Show Profile Reply with Quote
As I am sitting here writing these reports, I just learned that ON Thursday night during the storm as many were listening to the radio about island reports, Sherry Bracken and several other broadcast personalities, reported that "PGV" , was having an un-controlled release of TOXIC GASES. In the process of writing this missive, a woman who lives in Lani Puna Gardens (extremely close) was fearing for her life as the sound of the of the uncontrolled venting was louder than the Hurricane.She also reported no sounds of thunder. Fearing for their families they first called 911 and were chastised by the operator for using 911 for what she said was a non emergency. Then , since they knew the PGV plant manager Mike Kalakini, they called his # , and apparently he sounded like he was being woken up - not clear if that was the case, none the less PGV grossly under reported the toxic release as this couple and her familiy were afflicted with nausea, and
sickness.
This PGV true story is ABSOLUTELY UNACCEPTABLE. we must hold their feet to the fire and do whatever we must to get accountability from our elected and non- elected officals , and enlighten Hawaiin Tel as to their negligence in the 911 awareness of the situation.
As well we need to establish the truth of the report that PGV "must have an uncontrolled release of Toxic gases every time their are electrical grid issues (dropped or downed poles or wires).
Addendum: The progression of this thread shows that PGV/ Hawaiian TEL
Need to answer to this event - especially since the story seems to be in the process of - shall we say evolutionary revisionism.
When one adds the Hale interview as corroborative evidence to other story's of people living near PGV,an honest person would conclude that indeed their was a real problem that turned out worse than my original thoughts expressed above in that,evac was impossible.
Also it is quite ingenuous to cast aspersions against people who may also have been in the recent Cinderland production as to the verity of their claims.
Also I talked to my Lifeguard friend and he said that emergency response to PGV at this time was intercepted buy the above reality of
inaccessibility due to fallen trees and wires blocking all access to pgv - is that not also contrary to the official story?