04-16-2015, 03:20 AM
Ironyak,
Not ignoring you.
It is a complex idea.
To start, as knifet pointed out "not building the TMT does not solve the reparations gripe" illustrates my sentiments exactly in the rational disconnect or fallacy of attempting to block the construction of a new telescope as if that will have some bearing on reparations.
Second, a Opihikao pointed out "as to the 1 million dollars a year...might buy them lunch in 2016" illustrates just one of many instances in which money is expected from this organization. Why does anyone feel entitled to a handout from the telescope in the first place? (assumption here: because it's on our land on our island?) I surely never felt entitled to random handouts from any new enterprises / businesses that happened to open shop in my neck of the woods, and the only place I have encountered this attitude is Hawai'i. Be it geothermal or TMT if there's money to be made people here are quick to try and put their hands in the pot - always under the guise of "for the keiki". If it were up to me I'd choose to teach the keiki how to take care of themselves not feed off of the success of others like a parasite.
The aspect of Hawai'i being an entitlement culture is no new idea, I'm not sure why this comes as a foreign idea to you. The whole state is subsidized federally by the other 49 states and that's just the tip of the entitlement iceberg.
Not ignoring you.
It is a complex idea.
To start, as knifet pointed out "not building the TMT does not solve the reparations gripe" illustrates my sentiments exactly in the rational disconnect or fallacy of attempting to block the construction of a new telescope as if that will have some bearing on reparations.
Second, a Opihikao pointed out "as to the 1 million dollars a year...might buy them lunch in 2016" illustrates just one of many instances in which money is expected from this organization. Why does anyone feel entitled to a handout from the telescope in the first place? (assumption here: because it's on our land on our island?) I surely never felt entitled to random handouts from any new enterprises / businesses that happened to open shop in my neck of the woods, and the only place I have encountered this attitude is Hawai'i. Be it geothermal or TMT if there's money to be made people here are quick to try and put their hands in the pot - always under the guise of "for the keiki". If it were up to me I'd choose to teach the keiki how to take care of themselves not feed off of the success of others like a parasite.
The aspect of Hawai'i being an entitlement culture is no new idea, I'm not sure why this comes as a foreign idea to you. The whole state is subsidized federally by the other 49 states and that's just the tip of the entitlement iceberg.