09-17-2017, 04:34 AM
Major Harry said he's recently done these two things:
* Request a meeting with Helicopter Tour Industry to begin dialogue with industry.
* Request organization of a program by industry to address concerns.
His next step is
* Plan working group meetings of community and industry to see if anything can be addressed together
http://www.bigislandvideonews.com/2017/0...e-meeting/
Notice most of the facebook comments on this article are people complaining about vehicle noise?
Just a reminder, here is the evidence that should be compiled if you want FAA to do something. Bitching about vague things on the internet or waving signs won't motivate the FAA.
https://www.faa.gov/about/office_org/fie...lowfly.pdf
EVIDENCE REQUIRED:
Identification - Can you identify the aircraft? Was it military or
civil? Was it a high-or low-wing aircraft? Did you record the registration
number which appears on the fuselage? (On U.S. registered aircraft, that number will be preceded with a capital ''N.")
Time and place - Exactly when did the incident(s) occur? Where did this happen? What direction
was the aircraft flying? What was the color?
Altitude - How high (low) was the aircraft flying? On what do you base your estimate? Was the aircraft level with or below the elevation of a prominent object such as a tower or building?
Did you obtain photographs? Are there any witnesses who could confirm your estimate - do you have their names, addresses, telephone numbers?
Supporting Evidence: Witnesses, Police, Photographs. If you took photographs, we need to know the lens used, and the height of any identifiable
landmarks that appear.
FYI here's the flight rules from FAR Title 14
·
91.119 Minimum safe altitudes; general
Except when necessary for takeoff or landing, no person may operate an aircraft below the
following altitudes;
(a) ·Anywhere. ·An altitude allowing, if a power unit fails, an emergency landing without undue
hazard to persons or property on the surface.
(b) ·Over congested areas. ·Over any congested area of a city, town, or settlement, or over any
open air assembly of persons, an altitude of 1,000 feet above the highest obstacle within a
horizontal radius of 2.000 feet of the aircraft.
© ·Over other than congested areas.
An altitude of 500 feet above the surface except over open water or sparsely populated areas. In
that case, the aircraft may not be operated closer than 500 feet to any person, vessel, vehicle, or
structure.
(d) ·Helicopters. ·Helicopters may be operated at less than the minimums prescribed In paragraph
(b) or © of this section if the operation is conducted without hazard to persons or property on the
surface. In addition, each person operating a helicopter shall comply with routes or altitudes
specifically prescribed for helicopters by the Administrator.
·Helicopter operations may be conducted below the minimum altitudes set for fix
ed-wing aircraft. The reason? The helicopter's unique operating characteristics, the most important of which is its
ability to execute pinpoint emergency landings during power failure. Further, the helicopter's
increased use by law enforcement and emergency medical service agencies requires added
flexibility in the application of many FAA provisions.
Complaints like "50 flights over my house" is meaningless, so is "In some areas it is Blue Hawaiian that is the problem specifically." And for helicopters you'll need to record noise levels because altitude alone isn't an issue for FAA as you can read in the above quote.
In this age of cell phone computing power do the following:
* Record the noise levels https://www.thenoiseapp.com/ or https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.gamebasic.decibel&hl=en
* Record video & audio with location/time/date stamps
Submit evidence to HiCoP for compilation, verification and summarize for FAA.
* Request a meeting with Helicopter Tour Industry to begin dialogue with industry.
* Request organization of a program by industry to address concerns.
His next step is
* Plan working group meetings of community and industry to see if anything can be addressed together
http://www.bigislandvideonews.com/2017/0...e-meeting/
Notice most of the facebook comments on this article are people complaining about vehicle noise?
Just a reminder, here is the evidence that should be compiled if you want FAA to do something. Bitching about vague things on the internet or waving signs won't motivate the FAA.
https://www.faa.gov/about/office_org/fie...lowfly.pdf
EVIDENCE REQUIRED:
Identification - Can you identify the aircraft? Was it military or
civil? Was it a high-or low-wing aircraft? Did you record the registration
number which appears on the fuselage? (On U.S. registered aircraft, that number will be preceded with a capital ''N.")
Time and place - Exactly when did the incident(s) occur? Where did this happen? What direction
was the aircraft flying? What was the color?
Altitude - How high (low) was the aircraft flying? On what do you base your estimate? Was the aircraft level with or below the elevation of a prominent object such as a tower or building?
Did you obtain photographs? Are there any witnesses who could confirm your estimate - do you have their names, addresses, telephone numbers?
Supporting Evidence: Witnesses, Police, Photographs. If you took photographs, we need to know the lens used, and the height of any identifiable
landmarks that appear.
FYI here's the flight rules from FAR Title 14
·
91.119 Minimum safe altitudes; general
Except when necessary for takeoff or landing, no person may operate an aircraft below the
following altitudes;
(a) ·Anywhere. ·An altitude allowing, if a power unit fails, an emergency landing without undue
hazard to persons or property on the surface.
(b) ·Over congested areas. ·Over any congested area of a city, town, or settlement, or over any
open air assembly of persons, an altitude of 1,000 feet above the highest obstacle within a
horizontal radius of 2.000 feet of the aircraft.
© ·Over other than congested areas.
An altitude of 500 feet above the surface except over open water or sparsely populated areas. In
that case, the aircraft may not be operated closer than 500 feet to any person, vessel, vehicle, or
structure.
(d) ·Helicopters. ·Helicopters may be operated at less than the minimums prescribed In paragraph
(b) or © of this section if the operation is conducted without hazard to persons or property on the
surface. In addition, each person operating a helicopter shall comply with routes or altitudes
specifically prescribed for helicopters by the Administrator.
·Helicopter operations may be conducted below the minimum altitudes set for fix
ed-wing aircraft. The reason? The helicopter's unique operating characteristics, the most important of which is its
ability to execute pinpoint emergency landings during power failure. Further, the helicopter's
increased use by law enforcement and emergency medical service agencies requires added
flexibility in the application of many FAA provisions.
Complaints like "50 flights over my house" is meaningless, so is "In some areas it is Blue Hawaiian that is the problem specifically." And for helicopters you'll need to record noise levels because altitude alone isn't an issue for FAA as you can read in the above quote.
In this age of cell phone computing power do the following:
* Record the noise levels https://www.thenoiseapp.com/ or https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.gamebasic.decibel&hl=en
* Record video & audio with location/time/date stamps
Submit evidence to HiCoP for compilation, verification and summarize for FAA.