07-11-2006, 09:13 AM
I see this thread going South fast. I am not intending my response as an attack towards anyone else's opinion so please do not take it that way. If I refer to you in the post I do not intend anyone in particular.
I see nothing cool or noble about flying in a helicopter ripping up someone's personal property, legal or illegal. It is the same as coming into your house to take that beautiful giraffe carved in ivory that you brought back from a trip.
I am not going to post a whole lot of facts to try and sway anyone to think marijuana, a natural substance, should be legal. I doubt I could do much to change your way of thinking. I am sure when you have a loved one that is ill and could benefit from medicinal use you will wish it was legal. I am guessing when the next terrorist strike happens you will wish more of your tax money went to defense (not offense) instead of worrying about some burn out wanting to get high. I am guessing when an ice head robs from or causes you bodily harm you would have wished more of your tax money would have went to the ice issue instead of Green Harvest.
If you support this invasion of privacy I suggest you talk to some long time islanders. In particular those who didn't move to change "every" custom that long time islanders have had. I think most of them will let you know the increase in crime and poverty can be directly attributed to the green harvest that started back in the mid-80's and early 90's. Once it became harder and more expensive to smoke pot a lot of folks turned to meth/ice. That is where the problems began.
Potheads don't neglect their children. They do not make stupid decisions, they rarely have the motivation to make serious decision while high. It isn't too often that stoned people get behind the wheel of a car and kill someone but it happens pretty frequently with alcoholics. I can verify this fact with numerous statistics since I am an insurance adjuster.
Are you aware that the you will feels effects of two drinks for a longer period than a joint? Do you know instances of death from disease and violence are FAR more common from alcohol use than marijuana.
I can not understand why anyone would think smoking pot should be criminalized. It is a ridiculous waste of tax money. Growing a natural medicinal herb that has been around since vegetation as we know it should not be illegal.
I am am guessing you are reading this just imagining I am some stoned blitzed out idiot. I am not. I know quite a few folks on the board and they can attest I look fairly normal. I am an insurance claims analyst and hold the highest position in my division which is a subsidiary of the second largest insurer in the world. At 38 years old I have moved leaps and bounds above those with far more experience than myself. I handle all litigation, large loss and high profile cases for my client who is a Fortune 300 retailer. I am a licensed insurance adjuster in 31 states, most of which I had to pass a grueling test for. I have a CPCU designation. I am well educated and earn just shy of six figures. I own my home outright, have no car payment and minimal debt. I have owned property in Hawaii since 1998. I am a productive member of society and I vote. I have maintained a happy healthy relationship with my partner, Bob, for almost 21 years.
And yes, I smoke pot. OK, I guess that is stretching it a bit. I think in the past 10 years I have smoked pot about 25 times. I think I have consumed alcohol even less. In my younger days I smoked pounds of pot. Never once did I consider a violent act towards anyone while high but I certainly thought about slapping a few people while drunk. I knew I shouldn't drive while smoking pot but try telling a drunk they can't drive!
I don't know why I started responding to this. I haven't posted in a couple of months but this one really got me fired up. When we first started our plan to move to Hawaii it was to get away form uptight folks who couldn't mind their own business. Puna has changed so much. It went from such a peaceful loving place to somewhere I am not even sure I want to be anymore.
My husband & I just returned from a trip to California looking for possible places to relocate. We know we are ready to leave Atlanta but suddenly the BI isn't so inviting. It seems like I will be surrounded by the same mentality I am trying to get away from. What happened to the live & let live attitude of Puna?
I have seen the punatic thread on here and the questions about the origin of the phrase. I've had a punatic bumper sticker and tee shirt for at least 5 years. I was told long ago that it started almost as a slam against the crazy hippie Puna loving types. The residents took a pride in being Puna fanatics. As I read this thread I wonder how long term Punatics feel about the changes taking place? How they feel about the new attitudes moving in? Oh yah, generally speaking, punatics are pot smokers.
Sorry, I know I got off the subject but this thread just got me rolling. Again, I do not intend to offend anyone or attack anyone with my thoughts. I am just expressing my opinion like everyone else. I just think we should all be concerned when our tax money is being funneled into something as insane as ripping up some hippies patch instead of catching drunk driver, providing help for the homeless, counseling for the wife beater and funding for public schools.
Atlanta/Pahoa
Edited by - punagirl on 07/11/2006 13:17:41
I see nothing cool or noble about flying in a helicopter ripping up someone's personal property, legal or illegal. It is the same as coming into your house to take that beautiful giraffe carved in ivory that you brought back from a trip.
I am not going to post a whole lot of facts to try and sway anyone to think marijuana, a natural substance, should be legal. I doubt I could do much to change your way of thinking. I am sure when you have a loved one that is ill and could benefit from medicinal use you will wish it was legal. I am guessing when the next terrorist strike happens you will wish more of your tax money went to defense (not offense) instead of worrying about some burn out wanting to get high. I am guessing when an ice head robs from or causes you bodily harm you would have wished more of your tax money would have went to the ice issue instead of Green Harvest.
If you support this invasion of privacy I suggest you talk to some long time islanders. In particular those who didn't move to change "every" custom that long time islanders have had. I think most of them will let you know the increase in crime and poverty can be directly attributed to the green harvest that started back in the mid-80's and early 90's. Once it became harder and more expensive to smoke pot a lot of folks turned to meth/ice. That is where the problems began.
Potheads don't neglect their children. They do not make stupid decisions, they rarely have the motivation to make serious decision while high. It isn't too often that stoned people get behind the wheel of a car and kill someone but it happens pretty frequently with alcoholics. I can verify this fact with numerous statistics since I am an insurance adjuster.
Are you aware that the you will feels effects of two drinks for a longer period than a joint? Do you know instances of death from disease and violence are FAR more common from alcohol use than marijuana.
I can not understand why anyone would think smoking pot should be criminalized. It is a ridiculous waste of tax money. Growing a natural medicinal herb that has been around since vegetation as we know it should not be illegal.
I am am guessing you are reading this just imagining I am some stoned blitzed out idiot. I am not. I know quite a few folks on the board and they can attest I look fairly normal. I am an insurance claims analyst and hold the highest position in my division which is a subsidiary of the second largest insurer in the world. At 38 years old I have moved leaps and bounds above those with far more experience than myself. I handle all litigation, large loss and high profile cases for my client who is a Fortune 300 retailer. I am a licensed insurance adjuster in 31 states, most of which I had to pass a grueling test for. I have a CPCU designation. I am well educated and earn just shy of six figures. I own my home outright, have no car payment and minimal debt. I have owned property in Hawaii since 1998. I am a productive member of society and I vote. I have maintained a happy healthy relationship with my partner, Bob, for almost 21 years.
And yes, I smoke pot. OK, I guess that is stretching it a bit. I think in the past 10 years I have smoked pot about 25 times. I think I have consumed alcohol even less. In my younger days I smoked pounds of pot. Never once did I consider a violent act towards anyone while high but I certainly thought about slapping a few people while drunk. I knew I shouldn't drive while smoking pot but try telling a drunk they can't drive!
I don't know why I started responding to this. I haven't posted in a couple of months but this one really got me fired up. When we first started our plan to move to Hawaii it was to get away form uptight folks who couldn't mind their own business. Puna has changed so much. It went from such a peaceful loving place to somewhere I am not even sure I want to be anymore.
My husband & I just returned from a trip to California looking for possible places to relocate. We know we are ready to leave Atlanta but suddenly the BI isn't so inviting. It seems like I will be surrounded by the same mentality I am trying to get away from. What happened to the live & let live attitude of Puna?
I have seen the punatic thread on here and the questions about the origin of the phrase. I've had a punatic bumper sticker and tee shirt for at least 5 years. I was told long ago that it started almost as a slam against the crazy hippie Puna loving types. The residents took a pride in being Puna fanatics. As I read this thread I wonder how long term Punatics feel about the changes taking place? How they feel about the new attitudes moving in? Oh yah, generally speaking, punatics are pot smokers.
Sorry, I know I got off the subject but this thread just got me rolling. Again, I do not intend to offend anyone or attack anyone with my thoughts. I am just expressing my opinion like everyone else. I just think we should all be concerned when our tax money is being funneled into something as insane as ripping up some hippies patch instead of catching drunk driver, providing help for the homeless, counseling for the wife beater and funding for public schools.
Atlanta/Pahoa
Edited by - punagirl on 07/11/2006 13:17:41
Atlanta/Pahoa